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  1. Bearfax

    The Daly Cherrygraph

    I'm willing to do that and often do when I see the point being argued with sufficient evidence (if you look LC), if others concede that perhaps I have a good point. Works both ways. I will always concede to another point of view if backed up with good proof of that position, otherwise its all...
  2. Bearfax

    The Daly Cherrygraph

    Not sure how that relates to DCE. Are you suggesting Manly didn't win the premiership because of DCE
  3. Bearfax

    The Daly Cherrygraph

    What do you expect? Fulton was our Captain in 1976 and left for Easts and bigger money the next year. I dont recall apologies to the fans. Movement of top players happens all the time. I dont get the difference. He's declared he's leaving. He's done it a year ahead so another player can be...
  4. Bearfax

    The Daly Cherrygraph

    No. I'm saying Foran left without saying anything to the Manly fans. He just signed with Parra and left. DCE announced his intent so all know ahead of time and this gives Manly time to seek a replacement.. Did Foran think of that? Dont misunderstand, personally I don't give a rat's arse that...
  5. Bearfax

    The Daly Cherrygraph

    That's getting really picky there 47. Did Foran do that before he signed for Parramatta. Come on. You're looking for reasons to put him down. No one has responded to my examples of other players. The reasons why he's leaving are irrelevant. He's going full stop and he let us know well ahead that...
  6. Bearfax

    The Daly Cherrygraph

    Somewhat better than saying nothing. Supporters expecting you to stay and then suddenly you've signed with Parramatta without any comment to fans as Foran did in 2015. Fulton did the same thing in late 1976. Come on. At least DCE comes out and tells us. Sour grapes because he wants to move...
  7. Bearfax

    The Daly Cherrygraph

    SE8 He has carried this side for the past decade. His contract was for 8 years and we dont know what the 2 year extension cost Manly. It wasn't revealed as far as I know. Point is he gave his all for the club and for example compared to Turbo was well worth the money given how long Turbo was out...
  8. Bearfax

    The Daly Cherrygraph

    Seems many fans have a set on DCE because of the huge contract he signed back in 2015. Again DCE's only part in this was after a Management bungle by having him break a million a year contract with another club. So how is he accountable? 1. Manly offered DCE a contract significantly less in...
  9. Bearfax

    Seibold Ball

    Its not blaming the coach and players. Its saying there is a fundamental flaw in how Manly defends. Fulton always impressed that to be a champion side, your defence must be the first element to be focussed on. This side has for several years had defensive issues. I thought last year they were...
  10. Bearfax

    MVP: Rd 4 v Storm

    3. Olakau'atu (gets boring having to choose him every week but he dominates in this pack) 2. Koula (finally some action) 1. Hopoate (always reliable)
  11. Bearfax

    Seibold Ball

    It seems quite obvious. The Sea Eagles have a top 4 level set of players in their team. They should be contesting against the top sides. But they haven't been for a long while and the addition of Seibold doesn't seem to have changed that. It's been said over and again on this site that...
  12. Bearfax

    No premiership since 2011? That's on DCE.

    Its all to do with the market. Whether he's worth it or not from our perspective is irrelevant. Do you think the offer suspected as having been made by Sydney City would not be close to a million a year. If a club sees DCE as that one piece of the puzzle that they need, they will pay through...
  13. Bearfax

    The Kieran Forum

    Going backwards bringing Foran back. That is the sort of decision Manly shouldn't be making. Too much reminiscing of Foran 2010-14. His return in 2021 was a mixed blessing at best. He's been little more than adequate elsewhere. What Manly needs is inspiration not just competent fill in play...
  14. Bearfax

    No premiership since 2011? That's on DCE.

    I'll agree with that. Since about 2014 there has been recruitment, salary cap, coaching and general administrative issues that have left me rather bemused. I've no issue about trying new things, but it seemed to me the same errors were being made over and again, almost as if the club wasn't...
  15. Bearfax

    No premiership since 2011? That's on DCE.

    What marvels did Foz do at the Eels, Dogs and Warriors. In fact he was invited to leave each time. Granted injuries interfered. He performed OK when he returned to Manly but then he had DCE and the best of Schuster to support him. Hardly done much at the Titans. Good player but not in the same...
  16. Bearfax

    No premiership since 2011? That's on DCE.

    Here I go like a broken record. Bob Fulton wouldn't win us another premiership with the team we had. Only the team we have now looks to be in any way a challenger, but if they win it will be a team effort jus as it was in the 70s
  17. Bearfax

    No premiership since 2011? That's on DCE.

    Seems we have selective memories. Yes we last won a premiership in 2011, but easy to forget that the Sea Eagles should have won the 2014 premiership but for some questionable ref decisions. Note on that day DCE won the Rothman's Medal, one of the very rare occasions a player on the losing side...
  18. Bearfax

    Future is bright without DCE

    Agreed Bozo. He's been one of Manly's greats. Would be insulting to allow him to go out with negativity. He gave his all during one of Manly's most difficult periods. Without him I suspect we would have earned one or two spoons. No matter his choice now, he deserves our admiration and respect...
  19. Bearfax

    Future is bright without DCE

    None of those players would have won a premiership alone or even with one or two. Premierships are won by having a team of quality players across the park. Manly have not had that since 2014-15. Only this year are their signs of potential. Turbo has been with us for a decade. So has Jurbo. Yet...
  20. Bearfax

    Future is bright without DCE

    Agreed. Even when the great Fulton left for Easts, Manly remained a top side and won the premiership two years later. Its far worse when a group of top players leave all at once with little coming through. That happened in 2015-16. The Sea Eagles are far better set for the loss of DCE and even...

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