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  1. EOL now nesting on the GC

    Jamal Fogarty

    And this is the point I'm trying to make. We shouldn't be in this position bar very poor planning from Mestrov and co. Any swap needs to be an upgrade otherwise it's a net loss. It was my exact point with Des. Sure perhaps his time had come but the club was so desperate to get rid of him they...
  2. EOL now nesting on the GC

    Jamal Fogarty

    most players are about the $$ thou. would you like Dylan Brown for 1.4 per season? I think its a complete cop out to say players don't want to go to war with the guy. where is there any evidence of that? the players over the past 10 years have all looked very comfortable with DCE.
  3. EOL now nesting on the GC

    Jamal Fogarty

    again facts are important. 16-18 were the Trent Barrett years. a rookie coach that couldn't coach. our other million dollar man Tommy T has missed over 100 weeks of footy to injury over that same time. Chez has missed less than 10. the Manase Finau circus didnt help. just to name a few. so...
  4. EOL now nesting on the GC

    Jamal Fogarty

    Just as every player, coach, CEO and owner has been a contributing factor i would suppose. DCE gets a real flogging by some because he didn't lead a rag tag bunch of players to the promised land. A bigger issue than DCE could be the Trent Barrett years perhaps? the fact that Turbo has played...
  5. EOL now nesting on the GC

    Jamal Fogarty

    Why are they made up?
  6. EOL now nesting on the GC

    Jamal Fogarty

    Come on. Honestly? He's a dead set top shelf HB. I get many on here are bitter about the whole thing but facts are facts. 90% of other sides in the NRL would have taken him in a heartbeat. He won a Clive Churchill medal from a loosing side. He's a QLD and Australian player. Actually don't...
  7. EOL now nesting on the GC

    Jamal Fogarty

    It's not JF I'm directly concerned about. It's how we got here once again. It should never have got to this point.
  8. EOL now nesting on the GC

    Jamal Fogarty

    So just to be clear it's DCE's fault we haven't won since 2011?
  9. EOL now nesting on the GC

    Jamal Fogarty

    ok you all win. I give up trying to point out factual info.
  10. EOL now nesting on the GC

    Jamal Fogarty

    Come on people. Numbers are numbers. I can see this is a lost battle for most on here. Fogarty is a solid player and as a team the raiders are doing well for once. does that mean JF is the reason the raiders are playing well? DCE has better numbers, more experience, more wins, less injuries...
  11. EOL now nesting on the GC

    Jamal Fogarty

    Facts don't Lie. Apparently according to some our ****stain club captain's pea heart just isn't in the game any more and those same fans cant wait till the great white hope Fogarty comes to save our bacon..... well the numbers are laid out for the world to see..... cant wait till we downgrade...
  12. EOL now nesting on the GC

    The Elephant in the room

    we have obviously butted heads over the years but come on. you have an intrinsic dislike for 2 of our greatest clubmen of the past 40 years. I know you have your views on DES and that will never change but to now go at one of our best players for the past 10 years, club captain and a decent...
  13. EOL now nesting on the GC

    The Elephant in the room

    hes a solid player but should be on the wing.
  14. EOL now nesting on the GC

    The Elephant in the room

    Honestly another thread blaming DCE for every bad thing that's happened to mankind over the past 100 years..... Surely if you take off the 'I hate DCE' glasses for just one minute you might be able to see reason. Our only Line bending forward goes down in in round 3 and is out for the season...
  15. EOL now nesting on the GC

    Jamal Fogarty

    and yet so many on here attack DCE for 'chasing the money'. so just so i understand.... If you play for manly it has to be for the badge, the history, the passion.... But defo not the money? Fogerty is a good solid player that will only be coming here because his options are limited. If I were...
  16. EOL now nesting on the GC

    Post-Game Discussion Manly V Dragons [Round 7, 2025]

    I don't think so. Seibolds coaching and team selection is doing that all by itself.
  17. EOL now nesting on the GC

    Coach Seibold thoughts so far.... so good

    How will the coach be remembered once he leaves. Seibold..... the upgrade on nothing we didn't have to have.
  18. EOL now nesting on the GC

    Post-Game Discussion Manly V Dragons [Round 7, 2025]

    Gee Toff does some basic stupid things. Is it any wonder he struggles to get in the side when we have a full deck. Again Ben T for 75 min was very one dimensional. Brooks was given a lot of the kicking again tonight which was pretty ordinary. I will admit Hamole had a shocker. Still injured...
  19. EOL now nesting on the GC

    Coach Seibold thoughts so far.... so good

    I can't get on board with Jazz week in week out. Just doesn't offer anything at 9.
  20. EOL now nesting on the GC

    Coach Seibold thoughts so far.... so good

    He's very one dimensional. Tonight's game plan was exactly the same as last week which was exactly the same as the week before. Issue being we don't currently have the players to institute the plan. When we have everyone fit and firing then sure but no turbo. No paseka and no middle. What was...

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