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  1. Scorpio

    Sack Seibold Immediately

    You can play young forwards like Navale that have potential, but if they don't yet have the physicality to play a lot of minutes every week and impose themselves on the opposition, then they tire, they don't set a platform for the rest of the team, and the opposition runs through our defence...
  2. Scorpio

    Sack Seibold Immediately

    I should have clarified that I was talking about the players allegedly going to the CEO trying to get their coach replaced. Either way, the CEO does not control on-field results. Case in point, one of our ex-CEOs went to the Roosters where they proceeded to win two premierships. On the other...
  3. Scorpio

    Sack Seibold Immediately

    Assuming it is true... What employee gets to dictate who their boss is? This is Manly's record in the past 10 years. We've had 3 coaches, all or whom either quit or were (or about to be) sacked mid-contract... but these players and the owner have remained constant. Trent Barrett: 73 games, 29...
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    The Positive Thread

    Tom was well below his best, but still ran 255 metres with the ball on the weekend. Friday was a bad loss, but we also blew 3 or 4 try scoring opportunities, any of which could have turned the match. Hopoate will be back next match. This team needs a new on-field identity and that cannot...
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    We are Laughing stock of the NRL

    The most senior player (and the last Broncos premiership winner) remaining that season was Darius Boyd, who for whatever reason didn't get dropped even though he was an absolute scarecrow in defense. I think some clubs end up with a scenario where the status and influence of some player/s is...
  6. Scorpio

    New coach Poll

    You are talking about a club whose owner stated in 2022 that we have a premiership-winning roster, and that we need a coaching department to match that. I don't think any coach has the luxury of sacrificing current results and justifying it by saying that we might win a premiership in 3-5...
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    New coach Poll

    I'm not sure that I understand this point in particular. DCE signed his current contract extension in 2022, before Des was sacked. Jake and Tom signed their current deals in 2019 and those don't expire until the end of next year. I'm not sure what Seibold was supposed to do here?
  8. Scorpio

    Coach Seibold thoughts so far.... so good

    In the post-match press conference after a 26-point loss to the Knights (4th in a row) he called out his players for not having the right attitude and not playing like first graders... but that the change had to come from the players to fix that. Seibold isn't as direct in his post-match press...
  9. Scorpio

    Tom Turbo .. interesting if true

    It has to partially be a mentality issue. He was not great at centre returning from injury vs the Cowboys in Townsville last year but he made it through that match. He was then pretty good for the rest of the year after that point.
  10. Scorpio

    Coach Seibold thoughts so far.... so good

    It has gone under the radar but the Rabbitohs with Bennett are still below us on the ladder. I'm starting to think they're similar to us... they should be good, but for whatever reason they aren't.
  11. Scorpio

    We are Laughing stock of the NRL

    That's the first time I've heard anyone say that teams run at Croker to get a quick play the ball. I don't think it's true at all. Nor do I think his service is horrible. The Titans were spreading the ball from side to side, the defensive line looked all at sea and most of the missed tackles I...
  12. Scorpio

    We are Laughing stock of the NRL

    Both of those players are on significantly more money than Croker. Likewise Mitch Kenny whose play style is very similar to Croker. Simpkin as far as I can tell was dropped because of his defense and because he doesn't play 80 minutes. When we are on the front foot it is fine, but when we...
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    We are Laughing stock of the NRL

    For balance, he also made 50 tackles in an 80 minute effort tonight. If you want Harry Grant, that's fine... he reportedly costs $650k per year more than Croker. So who else would we jettison to afford him? Keeping in mind we still need 30 players on the cap.
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    Coach Seibold thoughts so far.... so good

    Wayne Bennett said a few weeks ago (after a poor Rabbitohs loss) that an attitude change from the players is needed, and that he couldn't do that for them. I'm far from convinced that Seibold is the best man manager or motivator, but sacking the coach isn't the silver bullet for the problems we...
  15. Scorpio

    Post-Game Discussion Titans V Manly [Round 15, 2025]

    Terrible. We bombed four or five tries through errors or lack of attention to detail. I honestly think we wouldn't be half as bad if we turned up looking like a team that was switched on. Instead we look like we're going through the motions. Whether that is because of poor on-field leadership...
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    Passion for the club

    They were a bit unlucky in one moment of that match. But instead of rebounding for another crack at premiership, they followed up that season with ladder positions of 5th, 10th, 8th, 8th and 9th. How would Des have been remembered if he only ever coached Manly to the 2007 Grand Final? Not...
  17. Scorpio

    Passion for the club

    The Raiders are not a poor club. An excerpt from this article lists the club's asset value at over $140 million, including $52 million in cash. Now this may not directly translate to third-party deals for incoming players, but it isn't as if they are a basket case that no player would or should...
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    Passion for the club

    This is Ricky's 12th year at the Raiders and they have still won nothing. They've made the finals 5 times and missed them 6 times. Any Manly coach (ex-player or not) with that record would have been sacked years ago and I'm not sure that many on Silvertails would be praising the coach for...
  19. Scorpio

    The Daly Cherrygraph

    I don't think we can assume that we can mail it in for any match this year and expect to win. We need DCE playing on Friday simply because he is better than the other options we have.
  20. Scorpio

    Number 9 - when will they learn.

    Croker (in his 3rd game this year) played 48 minutes the other night, made 30 tackles, and we were leading 16-6 when he was subbed off for Simpkin... but he's being blamed as apparently we should have scored 30 points in the first half, and that is his fault. By comparison, Mitch Kenny, who won...

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