Simonmyers11
First Grader
There has been a lot of discussion lately from fans about how they have felt about Manly's decision, or more importantly, the owners (Penn's) and CEO (Kelly's) decision, not to match Gold Coast Titans 1 million a year offer for DCE. There have been arguments for and arguments against. Some feel like I do, he was worth the extra money, so we could keep at least one Marquee player, not lose both international halves at once, build the team around DCE for the next 4 years and blood another young half and use the extra money saved on Foran to sign a representative forward, others feel paying 1 million a season for one player is crazy!
Anyway, not going to go into that, there has been enough threads about DCE and the halves signings, this is just a way of putting the 1 million dollar a season for one player into perspective, in regards to the salary cap - at the time of the signing.
By the way, Daley is currently been paid 500k a year and he just makes it into the top 20 highest paid players on the list for 2015 at equal number 20 (but that doesn't take into account all NRL contracts being accounted for on zero tackle- he may well be in fact further down the list!) Check out the list, and the players also on 500k such as Uate from the knights!
http://www.zerotackle.com/nrl/rugby-league/players/highest-paid-players/
There has been a lot of comments made that Thurston and Cam Smith are getting paid less than DCE. Both of these players have already signed for 1 million. Cam smith last year, and Thurston back in 2013 for seasons 2014-2017. Inglis signed back in 2012 for 800k (seasons 2013-17).
Salary Cap
2013 - 5.85 million
2014 - 6.3 million
2015 - 6.55 million
2016 - 6.8 million
2017- 7 million
2019 - 7.6 million or more?
http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/...y-cap-hits-seventh-heaven-20130513-2ji1f.html
You have to put the salary cap into perspective when these players signed. Each year, the cap continues to grow, and player payments continue to rise. 800k back in 2012 when Inglis signed was a huge deal, now 3 years later, when Chez signed for 1 million it was deemed as too much, however they both at the time of signing only take 15% of the total salary cap. You also have to take into account Marquee payments (up to 600k extra not included in the salary cap from major sponsors) I wonder why DCE wasn't offered any addition player payments from our sponsors or maybe he was?
These days forwards are being paid 750-800k, Jason Taumalolo was offered 1 million! Trent and Maloney will also attract offers as high as 700-800k - the same as what we offered DCE! It's all good saying we now have a war chest, but we still have to outbid opposition teams fighting for the same players we are going after. It's like when you have good stock or property and sell for a good price, but then you need to buy again and are confronted with a market where you are paying a premium price and in a competitive market. May as well held onto the quality you had.
My argument is not whether DCE is worth the 1 million, it's how high a regard did we feel he was worth compared to the other halves available. I feel the difference between 800k and 1 million in today's salary cap is not much, especially since it will continue to climb. You lock DCE for 1 million a year now for 4 years, and in 4 years time, the cap has gone up a million anyway! Have to ask yourself, who would you want as half for the next 4 years. Trent, Maloney, Carney for 700-800k or DCE for 1 million. We have a young side coming through and a few players will retire in the next 2 years which will free up even more space(Lyon, Matai, Snake, Ballin) I just don't get the argument 1 million is too much for 1 player. People will say look at Cowboys, but they have one of the best roosters in the NRL, they chocked last year in the semis. IMO they should of won it last year. They didn't lose because Thurston was paid too much, they chocked in the first half and have also been robbed by the ref a few times. South's bought GI and Sam Burgees to win the premiership, Roosters SBW, Melbourne are paying Smith 1 million, and also Cronk 750k and ontop of what they pay Slater plus a new deal for Bromich. Bet they still will be completive this year!
Anyway, just food for thought. It might turn out to a great decision and we find a great replacement (I'm hoping), or we end of paying over's for a replacement not even half the talent, even worse, we don't sign any marquee players. Only time will tell? Will be interesting to see what we end of offering potential replacements. The Penn's and Kelly say they have a backup plan and the future looks bright - let's hope they deliver!
Anyway, not going to go into that, there has been enough threads about DCE and the halves signings, this is just a way of putting the 1 million dollar a season for one player into perspective, in regards to the salary cap - at the time of the signing.
By the way, Daley is currently been paid 500k a year and he just makes it into the top 20 highest paid players on the list for 2015 at equal number 20 (but that doesn't take into account all NRL contracts being accounted for on zero tackle- he may well be in fact further down the list!) Check out the list, and the players also on 500k such as Uate from the knights!
http://www.zerotackle.com/nrl/rugby-league/players/highest-paid-players/
There has been a lot of comments made that Thurston and Cam Smith are getting paid less than DCE. Both of these players have already signed for 1 million. Cam smith last year, and Thurston back in 2013 for seasons 2014-2017. Inglis signed back in 2012 for 800k (seasons 2013-17).
Salary Cap
2013 - 5.85 million
2014 - 6.3 million
2015 - 6.55 million
2016 - 6.8 million
2017- 7 million
2019 - 7.6 million or more?
http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/...y-cap-hits-seventh-heaven-20130513-2ji1f.html
You have to put the salary cap into perspective when these players signed. Each year, the cap continues to grow, and player payments continue to rise. 800k back in 2012 when Inglis signed was a huge deal, now 3 years later, when Chez signed for 1 million it was deemed as too much, however they both at the time of signing only take 15% of the total salary cap. You also have to take into account Marquee payments (up to 600k extra not included in the salary cap from major sponsors) I wonder why DCE wasn't offered any addition player payments from our sponsors or maybe he was?
These days forwards are being paid 750-800k, Jason Taumalolo was offered 1 million! Trent and Maloney will also attract offers as high as 700-800k - the same as what we offered DCE! It's all good saying we now have a war chest, but we still have to outbid opposition teams fighting for the same players we are going after. It's like when you have good stock or property and sell for a good price, but then you need to buy again and are confronted with a market where you are paying a premium price and in a competitive market. May as well held onto the quality you had.
My argument is not whether DCE is worth the 1 million, it's how high a regard did we feel he was worth compared to the other halves available. I feel the difference between 800k and 1 million in today's salary cap is not much, especially since it will continue to climb. You lock DCE for 1 million a year now for 4 years, and in 4 years time, the cap has gone up a million anyway! Have to ask yourself, who would you want as half for the next 4 years. Trent, Maloney, Carney for 700-800k or DCE for 1 million. We have a young side coming through and a few players will retire in the next 2 years which will free up even more space(Lyon, Matai, Snake, Ballin) I just don't get the argument 1 million is too much for 1 player. People will say look at Cowboys, but they have one of the best roosters in the NRL, they chocked last year in the semis. IMO they should of won it last year. They didn't lose because Thurston was paid too much, they chocked in the first half and have also been robbed by the ref a few times. South's bought GI and Sam Burgees to win the premiership, Roosters SBW, Melbourne are paying Smith 1 million, and also Cronk 750k and ontop of what they pay Slater plus a new deal for Bromich. Bet they still will be completive this year!
Anyway, just food for thought. It might turn out to a great decision and we find a great replacement (I'm hoping), or we end of paying over's for a replacement not even half the talent, even worse, we don't sign any marquee players. Only time will tell? Will be interesting to see what we end of offering potential replacements. The Penn's and Kelly say they have a backup plan and the future looks bright - let's hope they deliver!