This is now "Twister" meets the "straw man" 😅
You said it all and answered my point
As before Best coaches in order - imo
Bellamy
Bennett
Cleary
Would Manly have won the comp with any of them = No
Are they better than Seibold = Yes
If your arguement was the other Cleary who is on the field and not in the grandstands, I would sit up and say, could definitely have given Manly a real sight to contend with the best
So the point your still missing is, I feel you put more importance on HOW MUCH impact the coach has thinking COACHES win the NRL
I feel it's the -
club setup from general manager to cleaner
Trainers
Coaching staff
Off field discipline
Comradery
Junior base coming through
Training Facilities
Most importantly - the cattle - the players on the field who make results happen
And of course "the coaches" who are part of the puzzle also
Have a good weekend Bozo 💯🔥
@maxta
You are 110% correct , it’s the whole set up from top to bottom , the coaches might get all the credit but just like in the field it’s a team effort.
As Ive mentioned before during my time contracting to the Brisbane Bronco’s I had the privilege to tour the Storm facilities and learn about their system ( not in huge depth of course but it was still about 2 hours ).
The meticulous nature of every single aspect is what drives that clubs success and let me assure you it doesn’t ALL come from the coach as suggested by
@BOZO
That club pay for the very best people in every line item , so if it’s nutrition ( as an example ) there’s a team led by someone who is an expert , they all have KPI’s and are constantly seeking improvements.
In the training areas they have experts in every imaginable field , strength , conditioning , power , speed they don’t just have 1 or 2 guys doing this there’s probably 10-12 ( just this one area).
News Ltd underpin that operation , and being a one club , one city scenario ( even in AFL land ) there’s tons & tons of money for everything.
@BOZO ( and I’m not having a shot at him) is mistaken if he thinks their success is solely to do with Craig Bellamy, however , just like the rest of their system Bellyache is a driven man, he’s been a part of developing the system no doubt.
But it’s far from one person and we will find that out when Bellamy retires as they’ll continue to be super successful regardless .
By all means applaud Bennett , Bellamy , Cleary , all superb coaches but please acknowledge the systems they are working in. A great example of this is the Dolphins , as good as Wayne might be they haven’t been as successful have they ????
My argument in this off season is the top 3 clubs are all there for good reasons , but the coaching is just one part of it.
Storm ( as above )
Roosters ( Uncle Nick & his billionaire mates )
Panthers ( leagues club & that enormous drawing area of players ).
There’s the next echelon of clubs below this , Brisbane ( the richest of the lot, all they need to do is **** off the old boys ) , South’s ( Crowe & Holmes a Court ) & maybe the Sharks as they’ve developed that land and are now rolling in cash.
A good coach is vital , but yes even Seibold would do well at the Drizzle due to their incredible systems.
