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It was not all forwards

Discussion in 'Rugby League Forum' started by winnyason, Mar 8, 2015.

  1. winnyason

    winnyason Well-Known Member

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    I thought are defence on both edges of backline was pathetic.
    I am of thought wolfy deserves a shot, blair wow and hiku not much better.
    Hoping stevie is back this week.
     
  2. maxta

    maxta Well-Known Member 2017 Tipping Competitor

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    Looked bad out wide due to the simple fact Manly were mashed in the middle - they were dominated actually.
    There was poor communication & poor decisions out wide, but the reason they were retreating backwards in defence was basically a quick play the ball in the middle.
    Theres little doubt this will be the number 1 area of improvement if chasing a top 8 spot in 2015
    If we look at Symonds copping traffic & being caught out plenty & players coming in yet not committing to shut down the attack I agree - but unfortunately the rot starts from the core & spreads out from there.....
     
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    • cherry_poppins

      cherry_poppins Well-Known Member

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      Why try to tackle when one wing leaks more than the Titanic
       
    • 6/71

      6/71 Well-Known Member

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      Ha! The majority of these ****s automatically blame the forwards regardless. Get used to it my friend!
       
    • maxta

      maxta Well-Known Member 2017 Tipping Competitor

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      The funniest posts here dont have any idea who to blame so they comment on someones post instead - dumb dipsh***s
      Btw - who do you blame?
       
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      • Jerry1

        Jerry1 Well-Known Member

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        I blame the coach lol
         
      • Snake

        Snake Doing The Eagle Rock!

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        at the risk of sounding arrogant, anyone with even a casual interest in rugby league knows that the issues out wide were a result of being beaten in the middle. The try that put the Eels up at half time is a classic example; Junior Paulo being one on one with a defender 35m in from touch is an indication that the middle is stretched. He was able to simply wedge into the line, offload because no one was present to wrap up the ball, and the rest is history.

        Sure, Hiku makes some terrible decisions and quite often leaves his run too late, but we were monstered in the forwards and that's the end of that.
         
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        • highlandeagle

          highlandeagle Still hating Gallop

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          Yes we were beaten in the forward battle in the second half.However at full strength and match fit we will be better.We missed Starling and Buhrer in the middle.Horo needs to start, we need his size early on.Starling and Burgess needs to be our starting props with Willie Lawrence and Mateo on the bench for some size.
           
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          • Mark from Brisbane

            Mark from Brisbane Living the dream Premium Member

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            I blame the Gen Y players , pea hearts !!
             
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            • Jatz Crackers

              Jatz Crackers Moderator Staff Member

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              lol.

              The bush is turning you into a funny bastard.
               
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              • Fluffy

                Fluffy Well-Known Member

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                we did struggle to score in the first half and should have capitalised on the errors a lot more so yes the backs were poor as well.
                 
              • Mark from Brisbane

                Mark from Brisbane Living the dream Premium Member

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                Yep well I'm about to head back there so that will make me funnier still !!
                 
              • Dan

                Dan Administrator Staff Member Administrator 2017 Tipping Competitor 2016 Tipping Competitor

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                It's a simple equation. If you have 3 forwards in a tackle you need to slide in closer to the ruck on both sides, which will create an inevitable overlap, if they get a quick play the ball and either shift it early or beat the markers then you have to try and slide out without creating gaps in the middle.

                The NRL have basically killed off good defensive games and are all about high scoring crap with their new rules it means you can only afford to commit one or two people to each tackle because as soon as one player rolls off the tackle everyone has to, so you either end up with no markers or players still retreating to the defensive line whilst the ball has already been played and shifted.

                It's an impossible scenario
                 
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                • Jatz Crackers

                  Jatz Crackers Moderator Staff Member

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                  Well you just spare a thought for me every now & again. I'm stuck here on the coast next to all these beaches and with the prevailing see breeze messing up my hair and so on and so forth....
                   
                • Mark from Brisbane

                  Mark from Brisbane Living the dream Premium Member

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                  Tough life for some , nah me, the redder the dirt the better!!

                  And let me tell you once you get over the hills and not far west it gets red , further you go the redder it gets .

                  And the stars / sunsets out there......to die for!!
                   
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                  • Snake

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                    I would prefer Horo on the bench over Leary who is too small.
                     
                  • Anthony Price

                    Anthony Price New Member

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                    does anyone else think william masons past his use by date just wondering if anyone has comments on him i think manly would have been better off buying a younger player
                     
                  • Mavin

                    Mavin Well-Known Member

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                    **** off troll come back when you win a premiership hell even make the finals
                     
                  • mozgrame

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                    Testify, Brother!!!

                    I love the outback!!!
                     
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                    • NYEagle

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                      I though the forwards we really compressed in the middle which often happens with weak forward packs trying to "hold" the opposition from busting through the middle. That's why you didn't see a larger number of line breaks or tries coming in the middle of the field.
                      But simply, because of this compression, the players out wide were left high and dry left with overlaps against them.
                      Sad but true and hopefully not characteristic of Many 2015.
                      NYEagle
                       
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