Little salary cap increase ??

Woodsie

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If the current speculation of a smaller than promised salary cap increase eventuates .... is this an unexpected bonanza for Manly?

If, as rumoured, a lot of clubs have already signed players in excess of the current cap in anticipation (and may have to be released), and with many quality players unsigned waiting .... are Manly one of the few clubs that have cap space available at the old rate?

Could we pull off the Bradbury of signings?
 
Problem is we have lots of cash but no one is worthy of buying this year. The market is pretty crappy this year.
 
That would be absolutely outstanding Woodsie if that eventuated. I wonder if it were luck, or wise projecting by the club? Either way, would position us VERY nicely.
 
That would be absolutely outstanding Woodsie if that eventuated. I wonder if it were luck, or wise projecting by the club? Either way, would position us VERY nicely.

Just incompetence by the NRL. But I believe a lot of the big signings for next year were made with a belief that the cap will be raised to 9/10 mil. If it isn't, and only goes to 8mil, there may be a few clubs with no where to go or advertising a player yardsale to get back under the cap.
 
Just incompetence by the NRL. But I believe a lot of the big signings for next year were made with a belief that the cap will be raised to 9/10 mil. If it isn't, and only goes to 8mil, there may be a few clubs with no where to go or advertising a player yardsale to get back under the cap.

Happens all the time in the NHL as well mate. The NHL procrastinates & takes so much time to decide on cap number, that players are signed to very long term contracts on the premise the cap will be XXX, but XXX is always determined by revenue raised in the game etc, and often clubs are well overspent, with contracted players on their books.

The players Association then organized through a CBA, an inflator policy, so that players aren't displaced.

Cut & Paste here:
According to the CBA’s language on the inflator, the salary cap range "shall be adjusted upward by a factor of five (5) percent in each league year (yielding the adjusted midpoint, which shall then become the midpoint of the payroll range) unless or until either party to this agreement proposes a different growth factor based on actual revenue experience and/or projections, in which case the parties shall discuss and agree upon a new factor."

But in essence, given Bullet & Matai (and I personally believe Myles to Storm - next season), we'd be well placed to take advantage of that big time. Actually, I remember you suggesting this a very long time ago (and without trying to sound like too much of a suck 😉 Hehehehe), you were probably spot on again.
 
Another possibility is that many of these new contracts for next year are signed .. but not yet registered by the NRL, placing them in limbo
 
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@Ryan This is one of the reasons that the 16 clubs are about to revolt .... the danger to Manly is that part of a peace "deal" is a moratorium on cap breaches due to the NRL backflipping on the size of the cap ... meaning we missed the boat in decriminalised cheating.

****, now that is something I didn't consider, but I could most certainly see it happening with the spine of the NRL presently made of chalk. That would also be completely unfair to clubs like us, but compensate ... hmmm... those clubs that appear to "massage" their cap very well in teams like The Roosters, Broncos, Bulldogs & others (who have funnily all appeared to have signed absolute marquee blue chip players for next season.)

The best way forward in this instance (if that occurs), depending on The Players Association agreement of coarse (we are dealing with humans, who have families and kids at school and all that), is of the NRL allows for compliance waivers (not buyouts - because unlike The States and hockey, I don't think there is enough revenue to just buyout contracts - but maybe you could do an element both).

I'm probably not explaining that well. Example here though.

Manly have $505 dollars spent on our entire salary cap
Salary Cap is announced at $500 dollars
Due to the delay in presenting that cap, the NRL agrees that any mix of players can either be bought out or traded (as a one off) to compensate, and so that every club is compliant.
Therefore, Manly either trade up to $5 dollars away, OR if said player(s) aren't tradeable, you have to buy them out, but the number isn't counted towards the salary cap as a one off.

That means the players and their families aren't affected too much. The clubs aren't penalised (too much). The 2018 Salary Cap retains its integrity.

Of coarse, that would mean Manly (a team likely to be well under the cap) could capitalise - which would make me one happy camper 🙂

Sorry about the war and peace mate.
 
Cap squeeze bites Dogs hard
You'd be excused for thinking that Australian Rugby League Commission chairman John Grant was the only concern coming out of the meeting with the clubs this week.

But while Grant's job appears to be on the line again, the biggest losers on the day were the Bulldogs. They went into the meeting seeking a big lift in the salary cap so they can rebuild their team.

Clearly, chairman Ray Dib was confident about winning the battle because his club has been spending up on the likes of Aaron Woods and Kieran Foran to bolster their roster for next year. In fact, even as the meeting was taking place, they announced yet another signing with Fa'amanu Brown leaving the Sharks to link up with the Dogs for two seasons.

But Dib didn't bank on the push-back from other clubs, who are determined to keep the salary cap at a manageable level so they can secure their long-term financial future. It means Dib and the Bulldogs have been left with a giant headache that will force them to cut even more players from the club's roster. And any talk of the club signing Cooper Cronk has been extinguished.

Club sources say the Dogs need to shed up to $1 million worth of contracts in the next few months if they are to comply with the expected salary cap. That does not include Josh Reynolds, whose contract expires at the end of the year and was never part of the club's cap problems for 2018.

So, apart from Sam Kasiano, who is headed to the Storm, the likes of Greg Eastwood, Moses Mbye, James Graham and Josh and Brett Morris are the names being bandied around. I talked to Mbye, Graham and the Morris twins, and none of them want to go.

Rival clubs realise the Dogs are going to have to embark on a fire sale, which would see them share the cost of some players' contracts next year. Bulldogs bosses keep saying they want to keep all their stars, but after this week's meeting, that's just not going to be possible.
http://www.canberratimes.com.au/rug...story-for-league-meninga-20170520-gw9f1x.html
 
Cap squeeze bites Dogs hard
You'd be excused for thinking that Australian Rugby League Commission chairman John Grant was the only concern coming out of the meeting with the clubs this week.

But while Grant's job appears to be on the line again, the biggest losers on the day were the Bulldogs. They went into the meeting seeking a big lift in the salary cap so they can rebuild their team.

Clearly, chairman Ray Dib was confident about winning the battle because his club has been spending up on the likes of Aaron Woods and Kieran Foran to bolster their roster for next year. In fact, even as the meeting was taking place, they announced yet another signing with Fa'amanu Brown leaving the Sharks to link up with the Dogs for two seasons.

But Dib didn't bank on the push-back from other clubs, who are determined to keep the salary cap at a manageable level so they can secure their long-term financial future. It means Dib and the Bulldogs have been left with a giant headache that will force them to cut even more players from the club's roster. And any talk of the club signing Cooper Cronk has been extinguished.

Club sources say the Dogs need to shed up to $1 million worth of contracts in the next few months if they are to comply with the expected salary cap. That does not include Josh Reynolds, whose contract expires at the end of the year and was never part of the club's cap problems for 2018.

So, apart from Sam Kasiano, who is headed to the Storm, the likes of Greg Eastwood, Moses Mbye, James Graham and Josh and Brett Morris are the names being bandied around. I talked to Mbye, Graham and the Morris twins, and none of them want to go.

Rival clubs realise the Dogs are going to have to embark on a fire sale, which would see them share the cost of some players' contracts next year. Bulldogs bosses keep saying they want to keep all their stars, but after this week's meeting, that's just not going to be possible.
http://www.canberratimes.com.au/rug...story-for-league-meninga-20170520-gw9f1x.html

I can't imagine that Bulldogs will be the only ones. The big question is whether these new contracts ie Foran have been registered by the NRL ... knowing that they will take the Dogs "over" the cap.
 
And, on another tangent, so many players only signed contracts up to the end of this year on the advice of their managers so they can capitalise on the growth of the cap. Could very well be some interesting signings towards the end of the season for the players holding out for the $$$$ and are only offered $$
 

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