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Matai, Ballin and Lyon...

Discussion in 'Rugby League Forum' started by shipsyeagles, Jun 5, 2015.

  1. shipsyeagles

    shipsyeagles Member

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    These 3 have been great players, but they seem to be really struggling this year.
    With skivvy and Bails the have 2 more years left on their contracts We need Hodges to be getting game time otherwise he will move on .

    Killer hasn't threatened all year and has coppped an injury tonight. And goalkicking been sub standard

    I'm thinking Chris Lawrence could be a value purchase moving forward ? He hasn't had good halves feeding him since Benji, maybe DCE could improve his game.
     
  2. malroon

    malroon Active Member

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    FFS serious, we have CAT forwards, so skivvy and killer have no go forward to do ANYTHING, as for ballin the man done 54 tackles again tonight he can't attack and defend at the same time..!!!!!!
     
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    • KOMORI

      KOMORI Born and bred an Eagle

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      Jamie has struggled this year, Ballin has seemed painfully slow out of dummy half at times but Skivvy is still moving beautifully with the ball in hand. His footwork looks great and he's lost no speed (Killer seems to have lost a yard or two) but he's missing a few tackles.

      Tough times. I'm not going to call for their heads yet..
       
    • Ranger

      Ranger Armchair Expert

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      Hodges need to be in the team. Most teams use two hookers to good effect, in attack we have nothing in this regard at the moment.

      Not sure if Lyon has had this many injuries in a season before.
       
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      • bob dylan

        bob dylan Well-Known Member Premium Member 2017 Tipping Competitor

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        Bit tough on goal kicking.

        Kicked 15 from 20 for 75%.
         
      • HoldenV8

        HoldenV8 Well-Known Member

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        I'm beginning to wonder if Killer and Skivy will hang up their boots at the end of this season. Killer can't seem to stay on the park for more than 2 or 3 games without getting injured, and Skivy's neck and shoulders must be giving him hell after every game.

        Skivy never had pace to begin with, though he hasn't lost any of what he did have. But his missed tackle count keeps on mounting up.

        Killer does look unfit compared to what we have seen in the past. His goal kicking is really no worse than its been for the past couple of years, but its almost to the point where if we don't score under or near the posts, tries won't be converted, or only a small amount of them will be. Kicked 15 from 20 this year, but I would bet that only 2 or 3 have been from out wide.

        As hookers don't always run for a squillion metres, Ballin could probably go another year or two. But I would definitely have Hodges on the bench for at least the rest of this year. The amount of tackles Ballin does would surely catch up to him in the latter minutes of each half so being able to give him a rest and bring on a fresh Hodges would be a benefit.
         
      • NewwyEagle

        NewwyEagle I sleep in a racing car

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        If our forwards added grunt in their play our backs would be doing better. Someone needs to put some anger into our forwards, it's upsetting watching them get done.
         
      • XV-1

        XV-1 Well-Known Member

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        Ballin needs to start doing forward passes like most of the other hookers

        But that would mean fellow forwards actually running hard and taking the ball on the advantage line.
         
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        • HoldenV8

          HoldenV8 Well-Known Member

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          Other than Leary, Jake, Burgess and Horo.....our forwards are making me hope we sign Lussick.

          Lui was nothing more than a passenger tonight. Two runs for 18 metres is nowhere near good enough. And Mason wasn't much better - 4 runs for 36 metres.
           
        • sheridanstand78

          sheridanstand78 Well-Known Member

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          I think a fair KPI for a front rower is 100 metres per game, we dont get that consistently, we are conceding far too many as well, we need to do better at the ruck.
           
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          • HoldenV8

            HoldenV8 Well-Known Member

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            Plain and simple, Jake needs to be in the starting side. He reminds me a bit of a mix between Beaver and Glenn Lazarus. An old fashion 80 minute player who can tackle as well as run the ball.

            Mason looked more comfortable as a panel member on Sterlo this week than he did in the Manly team tonight.
             
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            • Chip and Chase

              Chip and Chase True Supporter Staff Member Administrator Premium Member 2017 Tipping Competitor

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              Lawrence has been crap since he did his hip. He is going so well as a centre that the Tigers have him playing back row.
               
            • robbiea

              robbiea Well-Known Member 2017 Tipping Competitor

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              I think this is Killer's last year ,the writings on the wall..
               
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              • HoldenV8

                HoldenV8 Well-Known Member

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                You might be right. As it is this year he can't stay in the park for more than 2 or 3 games without getting injured
                 
              • Cliffymagic

                Cliffymagic Active Member

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                Yep .matai and lyons show heart and bust thier asses every game. But when they get injured and play on, this year especially matai they cant keep up in defence. Dont know whats up with ballin .but defentily need hodges on the bench.
                 
              • COMMANDER

                COMMANDER IF YOU DO NOT TRY YOU CAN NOT FAIL

                Jack Reed did a defensive job on Killer, he did the same thing last year.
                 
              • Utility Player

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                Imo Killers best game of the year was against the cows at 5/8 and a move there may allow him to play another year.

                He seems to be one of the smaller centres in the game and while it did not matter so much in past years as he gets older he is being caught out more.
                 
              • Andrew..

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                I agree Ballin isn't offering to much in attack but he has to compensate for our packs defensive inadequacies and is forced to make 50 tackles per game.
                 
              • robbiea

                robbiea Well-Known Member 2017 Tipping Competitor

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                Would love him here.
                 

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