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Nice Stadium is Gosford

Discussion in 'Rugby League Forum' started by double hoops, Sep 22, 2015.

  1. double hoops

    double hoops Well-Known Member 2017 Tipping Competitor

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    http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/ne...over-a-major-row/story-fngr8hax-1227537489234

    I don't support the Penns on much. But I get the impression the council milks Brooke for every last cent.

    It is an nrl quality ground. But it's a parks so the club can't keep people out. Happy to charge 4x as much rent as other Sydney nrl ground, but hey improving facilities isn't there problem.

    The council need to either sell the ground or actually act like an owner.

    It will be a sad day for all involved. But Gosford here we come.
     
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    • manlyfan76

      manlyfan76 Parra Trolls are the best. Premium Member 2017 Tipping Competitor

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      I dont want my brain to analyse this post 1 iota.
       
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      • Brookvale2015

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        I like Gosford but iam going to miss brookie. Gosford has always been one of my fav grounds.
         
      • bones

        bones Bones Knows

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        It's all going exactly to plan for Penn.
         
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        • manlyfan76

          manlyfan76 Parra Trolls are the best. Premium Member 2017 Tipping Competitor

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          Did they plan on me not renewing my 5+ years membership?
           
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          • sheridanstand78

            sheridanstand78 Well-Known Member

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            Nice place for a visit but it will never be home!!
             
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            • Simonmyers11

              Simonmyers11 Well-Known Member

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              Brookvale oval, facilities and playing surface is a joke. Not up to nrl standard. We need a 20k seat stadium with playing surface made for nrl. Im sick of manly playing on that bog. Barrett has also apparently been looking at a better gym to relocate to
               
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              • master blaster

                master blaster Well-Known Member

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                I was just about to say,something similar bones,something like,I told you so
                 
              • Frogz

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                I will never watch Manly play out of Gosford as a home ground or renew membership for a Gosford based team
                 
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                • NYEagle

                  NYEagle Well-Known Member

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                  Gee I disagree here.
                  The Brookvale "bog" gives Manly a competitive advantage.
                  I don't care if they played on a giant waterbed, whatever it takes to win games!
                  Lose the fortress and there will be some lean years ahead given the uncompetitive advantage Manly have with everything else.
                  NYEagle
                   
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                  • Brothers manly

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                    Bad signs if the coach is looking for a better gym. Whist flies that say about what's been happening for the las few years?
                    There are are few private schools who have better gyms than Rugby League clubs. Ask the Roosters.
                     
                  • sheridanstand78

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                    Its a game of bluff going on at the moment, The Penns are rattling the cages of the council and the football club.

                    The Penns want the NRL money that is provided if we shift to Gosford. They know the football club has the final say about Brookvale and I am sure the Penns have a goal of one day controlling the football club.

                    Lets hope that all parties come together and sort this mess out pronto.
                     
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                    • Blowfly

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                      I live on the central coast & while a move to Gosford would be more convenient for me I'd much prefer Manly to play at their rightful home Brookvale Oval.

                      That is where the legends have built this great club & that is where our future legends should play.

                      If it turns out they move I will never turn my back on the club I've loved all my life and although I don't agree with many decisions the club has made recently walking away is not an option for me.
                       
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                      • ManlyArmy

                        ManlyArmy Well-Known Member

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                        As Sydney grows, the most viable option as a home ground on the Beaches is Rat Park.

                        Could easily build a 20-25,000 seat stadium, Leagues Club and a carpark in the space there, you could actually build two of each!
                         
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                        • Hgbcds

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                          Yes.
                           
                        • bones

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                          Below is the official Statement from the club. The same people who believed Joe Kelly and Scott Penn when they said Tooves was safe, may also choose to believe this as well.


                          The statement:
                          The Manly Warringah Sea Eagles wish to respond to recent media reports published in relation to Brookvale Oval and containing comments made by or on behalf of Warringah Council.

                          Contrary to the suggestion by Mayor Michael Regan, the Sea Eagles have never contemplated moving the team from the spiritual home of Brookvale Oval and this week the Sea Eagles will launch their 2016 Membership campaign that includes 10 games at Brookvale Oval.

                          The Sea Eagles are keen to remain at Brookvale Oval but cannot do so upon terms which are unfinancial and jeopardise the future of the Sea Eagles. At present, the terms offered by Warringah Council results in the Sea Eagles incurring a financial loss for the vast majority of home fixtures played at Brookvale Oval due to the exorbitant ground hire fee, the severe limitations of reserved and undercover seating areas and restricted corporate hospitality capability.

                          The Club is in dispute with Warringah Council regarding:

                          · The terms upon which the Club was licensed to use Brookvale Oval in the 2015 season (the terms of which, contrary to the comments of the Mayor, were not agreed by the Club for the 2015 season);

                          · The closure of Brookvale Oval for a significant period in early 2015 due to the ground surface not meeting the standards of the NRL necessitating the relocation of lower-grade fixtures and the general standard of the ground surface; and

                          · The terms upon which the Club may licence Brookvale Oval in the future.

                          These matters have been in dispute since as early as December 2014. Without success, the Club has sought to resolve these issues in the course of 2015 and recently participated in mediation in accordance with the Council’s own dispute resolution processes.

                          Relevant to the issues in dispute, the Club notes:

                          · The occupation fee charged to the Club of $45,000 per home fixture is inexplicably excessive when compared to other organisations to use Brookvale Oval including a professional national rugby union franchise which is charged only $750 to host a fixture at Brookvale Oval;

                          · When compared to the hiring terms for other suburban grounds used by other NRL teams, the Brookvale Oval facilities are inferior:

                          o Brookvale Oval has the smallest number of reserved and undercover seats and most limited corporate hospitality capacity of any full time venue in the NRL;

                          o Brookvale Oval is the only NRL full time playing surface which is available to the public;

                          o The playing surface is not maintained according to specific NRL standards as it is also used for rugby union, soccer and other casual activities;

                          o Warringah Council is charging the highest fee of any NRL Club using a suburban ground;

                          o The media and broadcasting facilities and the change rooms are the most out of date of any full time venue used in the NRL.

                          · The Sea Eagles were embarrassed and publicly criticised in Round 3 of the 2015 season when the ground was deemed unsuitable for NRL matches. The NRL & the Sea Eagles were forced to contract independent turf specialists to remedy the problem at the Sea Eagles’ expense;

                          · Warringah Council claim that it is subsidising the Sea Eagles’ use of Brookvale Oval but the Sea Eagles subsidise 75% of the Council’s annual operating costs of a public park, most of which relate to continued use by the public and other hirers;

                          · The Sea Eagles investment in local community support exceeds $250,000 annually through over 700 hours of direct community programmes run through organisations including Royal Far West, the Northern Beaches Public School system and Bowel Cancer Australia, which dwarfs the local community support of rival professional football codes in the area;

                          · Brookvale Oval was gifted to Warringah Council by Jane Try and her family on condition that the ground be used for promoting sport and recreation in the area.

                          The Sea Eagles are disappointed that Warringah Council has refused to meet for the purpose of resolving the issues in dispute, despite repeated requests over the course of the 2015 season. The Sea Eagles are of the view that the Club is being used as a scapegoat for the Council’s irresponsibility in relation to the management of a public park. The Council’s position is forcing the Sea Eagles out of Brookvale Oval. In the circumstances, the Sea Eagles have not ruled out endorsing other candidates when the next council elections are held or putting up its own candidate.

                          Despite the comments of Warringah Council to the contrary, the Sea Eagles are committed to playing future seasons at Brookvale Oval particularly for their fans who have expressed their strong desire that the tradition continue of playing rugby league at the spiritual ground of the Sea Eagles.
                           
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                          • Jerry1

                            Jerry1 Well-Known Member

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                            Here we go - How surprising.....not...
                            We all know whats coming.. Go the Gosford eagles..
                             
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                            • master blaster

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                              well here,s another one,hope it hasnt already been posted........
                              Manly Mayor Jean Hay has claimed that the Sea Eagles are being ‘ripped off’ by Warringah Council in relation to their usage of Brookvale Oval.

                              Mayor Hay spoke out in support of the Manly Warringah Sea Eagles following recent comments from Warringah Mayor Michael Regan.

                              Regan claimed that the Sea Eagles were ripping off rate payers by the Club’s decision to refuse to pay exorbitant hire fees for Brookvale Oval usage.

                              “The Sea Eagles provide an enormous benefit to the local community and their presence on the northern beaches is essential moving forward,” said Mayor Hay.

                              “Warringah Council are effectively forcing them out of the area by holding them to ransom over the usage of Brookvale Oval whilst openly favouring rival professional sporting codes usage of the same facility.

                              “Warringah Council have also failed in ensuring the ground was upgraded to that of a modern standard. This would ensure that all members of the local community had a facility to proudly call the home of the Sea Eagles.”

                              Mayor Hay went on to state that Manly Oval is hired for seven months by cricket for approximately $25,000 and the relocated professional rugby union franchise that used to utilise Brookvale Oval for $20,000 over 5 months. Mayor Hay indicated that a hiring fee of this amount was more reflective of the Sea Eagles investment and presence in the local community.

                              “The way the Sea Eagles have been treated by Warringah Council is nothing short of disgraceful. Quite frankly they are being ripped off,” she said.

                              “I feel that Warringah Council are using the Sea Eagles as a cash cow.”
                               
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                              • bones

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                                • Duff

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                                  The stadium at Gosford is an insult to proper, traditional Rugby League supporters.
                                  But that's irrelevant. It's the home of the Beagles. If they take us out of Sydney, I stop supporting. I am not from the Central Coast. What possible reason would i have to support a Central Coast team? I don't support the Marinators in the A-League.
                                  I'd bitch and moan about a move to Moore Park, but would somewhat less enthusiastically continue my support, but I will not tolerate relocation.
                                   
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