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tom t for hiku

Discussion in 'Rugby League Forum' started by kombi 66, Jul 20, 2015.

  1. kombi 66

    kombi 66 Member

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    Omg...positional play horrible, slow as the QE2, dropped ball to say the least.cowboy raids all down the eagles RHD.
    Tom t comeback!
     
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    • Remi

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      If Tom was playing on the wing, the same thing would be happening as Hiku. Both are not quick enough for wingers and both keep moving in and not staying on their man. Something Toovey does not teach !! It happens with Blair, Gutho etc. The club needs a specialised quick winger, which they do not have. No sliding nothing, too many holes
       
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      • sheridanstand78

        sheridanstand78 Well-Known Member

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        Massive mistake playing Hiku. His positioning has cost us 2.tries.Tom Turbo has to play next week.

        We are so undisciplined with the ball no patience at all. If we don't lift we could be smashed here.
         
      • lsz

        lsz Well-Known Member Staff Member 2017 Tipping Competitor

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        People on here were giving it to Tom T a couple of weeks ago (might have been the broncs game)
         
      • Ryan

        Ryan Well-Known Member

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        Tooveys dumb decisioning in team selections again, as well as Tooveys extremely poor defensive structures.

        I'm so glad he's gone. Hopefully Barrett brings in some defensive strength.

        Also, what the hell is Singe doing with Pork Pie Peta? Guy looks like he has swallowed a sheep, and is playing the same.

        In fact, I'd say Symonds has more speed than Hiku. Gotta pull the bloke off the field.

        Thurston is schooling both Toovey and Hiku.

        Foran, as usual, is completely invisible, apart from a few shocking errors on the opposition try line.

        And @lsz that's true, about positional play. What about the fat, slow and unfit part? Hiku looks unmotivated. Needs to be offered a Whoppa Meal as reward.
         
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        • Alby

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          They need to calm their nerves. Frantic and undisciplined atm.
           
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          • lsz

            lsz Well-Known Member Staff Member 2017 Tipping Competitor

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            Just posted this in the game day thread


            1:29 of this vid, 2:32 (arguably) , 2:40


            I love Tom T but you are kidding if the issues magically go away when he takes the park
             
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            • pjayz

              pjayz Well-Known Member 2017 Tipping Competitor

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              Rubbish, Hiku has been atrocious. Tom T out ran semi radradra in the sevens - he is plenty quick enough.

              Agree that our defensive structures are very poor and coaching plays a big part of that. Tom is very inexperienced on the wing also, but he has the speed, and some of the things Hiku has done is plain amateur hour. I also think Jamie plays a role here and collapses in too quickly rather than calling his inside men to spread the line and keep it intact.
               
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              • mave

                mave Well-Known Member Premium Member 2017 Tipping Competitor

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                Peta has had a shocker tonight, along with Hodges.
                 
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                • Remi

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                  Tom does not have explosive speed from the start nor quick enough to get back in defence, he has been caught out himself against this team and others before. If Tom was playing tonight the same thing would happen. Tom is a good fullback and not a winger. You play wingers on the wing and fullbacks at fullbacks. You play players in their correct positions and a wing is a specialised position. One of the problems with the team is we have no real strong speedsters, only Brett who has the explosive speed, but is getting on a bit.
                   
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                  • Dinga

                    Dinga Active Member

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                    TomT is fast easily our fastest back I know Brett S is quick off the mark But Tom T has him covered. Tom T needs to be in the team every week he adds another dimension with cross field kicks also. Peta Hiku had a poor game tonight and he is not a winger he needs to be a centre or a 5/8 for him to have a future at Manly.
                     
                  • Remi

                    Remi Active Member

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                    You haven't watched the speed drills at the club. Tom doesn't get anywhere near Brett, from a standing start until finish
                     
                  • Simonmyers11

                    Simonmyers11 Well-Known Member

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                    Agree
                    Agree. Tom T comes in too. We should take notes on how the roosters defend, thats how you do it- but they also have a fitter side with forwards that can dominate in tackles, win the wrestle and man up. Manly get dominated up the middle leaving lyon to rush in followed by the winger. Lyon does come in a fair way though causing the wingers to come in also. Blair wolf tom t, they all follow lyon in. I hate the way we defend out wide, i want to see trent coach a different way..if possible. We seem to jam in then back peddle and try and slide. But we are too slow and miss too many one one one tackles. And dont have the cover defense like we use too. Players getting older, and slower
                     
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                    • Snake

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                      I don't know that Tom T would outpace Snake, but he would certainly be quicker than Hiku who is pedestrian.
                       
                    • PONTIAN SEA EAGLE

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                      Please no more excuses for hiku.You've all described your reasons he should not be in 1st grade.
                       
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                      • The Who

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                        The issue is that 2V dropped an inform young talented player for a bloke coming back from injury who's last good match was when he was wearing Kiwi colours. 2V also neglected to give Brenton Lawrence some much needed match practice when we dearly could have used him.
                         
                      • BOZO

                        BOZO Well-Known Member 2017 Tipping Competitor

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                        A bit harsh on 2V brother . When 2V had a decent pack he took us to a grand final with his defensive structures , No one can coach donkeys to win a Melbourne cup
                         
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                        • ALinda

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                          And Tooves said before the game that he replaced Tom T with Hiku "for his experience". Showed very little of that tonight :mad:
                           
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                          • EagleFromMay1967

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                            They were Dezzie's defensive structures.
                             
                          • cherry_poppins

                            cherry_poppins Well-Known Member

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                            You hate him as a person so no **** you want him

                            Next year if Barrett is our coach I'll want him gone, but I'll give you the reason

                            Refused to sign a saints ball for me who was trying to get the autograph for my little cousin,yes i was wearing a manly jersey,plus no guts for not knocking out Nathan Brown
                             

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