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Why Manly are replacing a club legend with untried rookie coach

Discussion in 'Rugby League Forum' started by BOZO, Aug 2, 2015.

  1. BOZO

    BOZO Well-Known Member 2017 Tipping Competitor

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  2. HoldenV8

    HoldenV8 Well-Known Member

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    In a word.....politics.

    Tooves picked the wrong team (Quantum) to side with and he's paying the price unfortunately. Don't believe a word about it being for lack of results.
     
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    • robbiea

      robbiea Well-Known Member 2017 Tipping Competitor

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      Why ?,that is the question.
       
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      • Andrew..

        Andrew.. Well-Known Member 2017 Tipping Competitor

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        It still rips my guts apart every time I think about losing Tooves. This decision has cast a huge shadow over the club I love.
         
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        • manlyfan76

          manlyfan76 Parra Trolls are the best. Premium Member 2017 Tipping Competitor

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          Last nights result was a huge distraction to what is the biggest issue for Manly since privatisation.
           
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          • IQofalimabean

            IQofalimabean Well-Known Member

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            Its a dog eat dog world. Feel bad for Toovey but if the Manly side had won the 2013 grandfinal I recon he would still have his job.
             
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            • Beer buzzard

              Beer buzzard Only tipsy on gamedays

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              If every club had the attitude of never picking a rookie coach, we would still have coaches like Tim sheens and Brian smith around. In an ever changing game, new coaches bring in new ideas.
               
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              • Red Pill

                Red Pill Optimist & Troll Inquisitor

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                Must admit I find it hard to understand why Tooves is being moved on.
                Can not imagine business people like the Penns would intentionally send the club backwards. If Bozo was screaming at the board to keep 2V he would still be there next year despite any political tit for tat.
                I truly believe there are some pragmatic reasons why Tooves was sacked though potentially misguided and simply wrong. I do not think however Bozo gets these kind of things wrong though!
                 
              • Andrew..

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                I'm not talking about Barrett's inexperience ! If Toovey had quite for personal reasons I'd be all for Barrett...it's the process that's pissed me off.
                 
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                • niccipops

                  niccipops un echidna spillo mia bevanda Premium Member 2017 Tipping Competitor

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                  Run by fwits.
                   
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                  • Wombat64

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                    You are being too kind to them .....
                     
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                    • Pittwater Legend

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                      I would not trade Toovey for anyone at the moment and have always felt that way.

                      Barrett's ability concerns me. From what I've heard, he was unimpressive with an under 20's side and is now sharing poor results as assistant coach over at the Panthers. I'll give him the benefit of the doubt as he is young and has scope for improvement but Bozo needs to be heavily involved with Barrett's role. I feel we should have only offered him 2 years. If that wasn't good enough for him then tough ****.
                       
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                      • manlyfan76

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                        Funny thing is that this year will make Toovey as a coach. This is his graduation.
                         
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                        • manlywarringah

                          manlywarringah Well-Known Member Premium Member 2017 Tipping Competitor

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                          Well the penns say it's a results driven business and Tooves has had a successful 3 years. Only being robbed of a premiership in 2013 has blotted a great copy book.

                          Now it's Barrett who has to win a premiership within 3 years and at least make the top 4 next year, a gf and equal 1st finish to be able to hold his job.

                          If he doesn't, the penns and joke elly have to fall on their sword as their management and administrative performaces have been disgraceful. We are well in the red this year after Dave Perry was able to get us slightly in the black not long ago in difficult circumstances.

                          So i'm sure they will stand down or sack themselves as after all Scott Penn, it is a results driven business!! :banghead:
                           
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                          • manlyfan76

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                            Cartwright scares me as an assistant, up here on the gold coast ive been forced to watch him fumble through his years at the Titans.
                             
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                            • The Who

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                              We don't have to like the owners or what they have done to 2V, but come next season we must also give 'Epoxy' our full support as he tries to fulfil the club slogan, Stronger Together.
                               
                            • SeaEagleRock8

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                              Yes I have been thinking the same thing. The way he dealt with his sacking has won him a lot of cred (not that he lacked it before). He will finish this year as a very highly regarded NRL coach with an excellent record, and if he does decide to take up another coaching appointment in future he won't lack confidence and will probably be very successful. Which no-one here would begrudge.
                               
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                              • TagMonster

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                                It will be an interesting situation if Manly make the top 8. We have the team to make some noise if they play to their potential. How many coaches that make the finals and don't just go out the backdoor have been sacked I wonder?
                                 
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                                • tookey

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                                  Are the players now playing for Toovey to send him out on the best way they can or are they playing because they are happy that he is now going? Interesting question.
                                   
                                • Ron E. Gibbs

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                                  Understand that, but his record as an assistant coach (not a head coach) is very good, first at the Roosters and now at the Cowboys. Suggestions that he'll be there to deal with players day to day because Barrett isn't very good at man management (isn't that what a head coach does?) worry me though…
                                   

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