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Smith loses battle against acronyms
Thursday, December 09, 2010 » 06:35pm

Defence Minister Stephen Smith has lost a battle to ban acronyms in documents his department presented to him.

But in a department heavy on acronyms like JSF (Joint Strike Fighter) and SOTG (Special Operations Task Group), Mr Smith eventually gave in.

Freedom of Information documents obtained by AAP show the acronym ban was a 'key issue' for the new minister.

'The first is that all submissions must not contain any acronyms at all,' one email from the director of the defence Ministerial and Parliamentary Liaison Services on September 28 shows. 'Any submissions that use acronyms will be returned.'

Another document says: 'The minister has asked for acronyms to be spelt out in his briefs.'

Later on the same day Mr Smith gave some ground.

He asked for a list of 'acronyms that are in common use' that would be allowed in documents.

But it wasn't enough for some in the department.

Eventually Mr Smith's office changed its 'zero-tolerance rule'.

'The office of the minister for defence have advised that acronyms may now be used in advice to the minister,' a final email on October 20 said.
 
i can understand his issues, even talking to different corps in the army acronyms cause confusion, he and the department have to deal with the lot and im sure there are double ups.

A soldiers career path in my unit could easily be described as:

Enlist, RRTC, CAMs, IET, RRF, HRR, BCCC, SCCC, IIMV, TLTG-3, Junior leaders, SIO-S, SIO-P, SIO-C
 
Enlist, RRTC, CAMs, IET, RRF, HRR, BCCC, SCCC, IIMV, TLTG-3, Junior leaders, SIO-S, SIO-P, SIO-C,,

lets see if i can get these fluffy ..  IET,  initial employment training
RRTC, regimental recruit training centre..
SIO-S, dnt knw the SIO part but im guessing they each are section commanders, platoon commanders & company commanders..

i dnt knw the rest  probably got them all wrong ..lol
 
not a bad effort jjai

RRTC - reserve recuit training course
CAMs - I cant even remeber as its new the C is Common as in all corps
IET - initial employment training
RRF - Reserve response force
HRR - high readiness reserve
BCCC - Basic comms course
SCCC - Specialist Comms courcse
IIMV - somethign mobility vehicle
TLTG - timor leste task group
SIO - supervisor infantry operations

There are another dozen plus just cources for infantry with acronymns let alone anything else.
 
i was in army reserves for 2yrs they wanted me to go regs , then i recived letter from duntroon  to go  officer training fuk that i hate officers they dnt earn their pay..  i decided to do neither..

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lol fluffy i was at holsworthy  , we were in the bush for a couple of weeks & these nerdy new officers came into camp with us half way through they had  to do 3days bush experience,, they couldnt even put their tent up we had to dig thier trench & they had never seen a ration pack in their lives.. lol  they are claytons soldiers, more book worms than infantry personnel..
 
Wouldn't you rather get paid more than you earned jjai?

Overcompensation can't be a bad thing. Would you rather do all the hard work & get ripped off for it? Sounds arse about face to me.
 
not really duff..
i didnt care about the money, i`d rather the dignity & the pride in being an infantryman  than an officer .. the officers come once the grounds been won by the infantry.. theres mateship & comradery in being a digger something the officers dont have .. 
also they  might have the pips on their  shoulders..
but the soldiers know they`re **** thats why  they  need to be recognised with a salute everytime you pass them, otherwise you wouldnt even acknowledge them .. unlike sargeants & warrant officers . i respect them ..

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when i was there we were still using SLR`s the new M1  or whatever it was was just coming in the regular army i never got to use them as i left not long after they came out.. i was there from 86-88..
my best experience was flying from richmond to singleton infantry training centre in a hercules  & spending two weeks with regular army doing manouveres ..
 
jjai link said:
they couldnt even put their tent up we had to dig thier trench & they had never seen a ration pack in their lives.

That's why they are officers and you are a soldier
 
Fro link said:
officers can also spell and string a sentence together.
thanks throw i was waiting for you mandatory comment..   ::)..

you know i was 17-18 then..  :-\ :-\
:-\ ( for mata)  ....

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Chip & Chase link said:
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they couldnt even put their tent up we had to dig thier trench & they had never seen a ration pack in their lives.

That's why they are officers and you are a soldier
[/quote]chIp WTF dude did you read what i wrote, i can handle the tiers in command my point was , why these guys giving orders & directing troops when they cant even set their tent up..  i`d be suprised if  they could even strip their rifle..

its the sargeants & corprals that do all the work..
 
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