I think we will, the drags will go down, will we win? Hmmm not sure. But the question is would you be happy if we make it in 8th and we get bounced out heavily like we did v the Eels in 05? I was very happy in 05 to make it, and personally where there is life there is hope, but some on here certainly think we shouldn't bother if we are going to get pumped. So ok assume we make it and we do get pumped.....are you happy?