A little perspective… the game is played for 80 minutes; not 40, not 60, not 70…A little perspective… had we held the line for the last 5-10mins of half, may we’ll have been a different result?
Clearly see how much we missed ‘groggy froggy’ and our origin backrow candidate. Won’t miss Tom like everyone thinks… on current form, the injury will be a good chance for Tommy to reset. He looks like a ring-in from park footy.
Mate where flat out staying on task for 20, we’re like a 20/20 side, 20 minutes or 20 points then park it.A little perspective… the game is played for 80 minutes; not 40, not 60, not 70…
No spine, in more ways than one.Guy needs to use less PowerPoint presentations and buzzwords and get this pack of bludgers running through brick walls for him. We need a motivator not a technician. Our team has all the talent in the world but no spine.
Coach sets the game plans, selects the players, sets the attacking and defence structures. So yes, I hold him accountableDo you guys ever blame the players?
I saw a lot of bad things that had nothing to do with the coach.
The reality is Tom is a shadow of his best, DCE is rocks and diamonds and there are some lazy forwards.
I'm not giving Seibold a free pass but honestly blaming the coach for everything is fcking as lazy as Matt Lodge.
100% @silver They also motivate and Inspire players to get the job doneCoach sets the game plans, selects the players, sets the attacking and defence structures. So yes, I hold him accountable
If they did hang on to win,it only wallpapers over the cracks.The team is losing,and winning,no different to last season.There is no improvement from last season.This is Seibold’s team nowA little perspective… had we held the line for the last 5-10mins of half, may we’ll have been a different result?
Clearly see how much we missed ‘groggy froggy’ and our origin backrow candidate. Won’t miss Tom like everyone thinks… on current form, the injury will be a good chance for Tommy to reset. He looks like a ring-in from park footy.
I think the players, especially the senior players and so-called leaders in the team, have to share in the blame. They are giving him nothing. But I do think Seibold's focus on our "weapons" in attack has been at the expense of our defence, which is as bad as it's always been. That has to be fixed.Do you guys ever blame the players?
I saw a lot of bad things that had nothing to do with the coach.
The reality is Tom is a shadow of his best, DCE is rocks and diamonds and there are some lazy forwards.
I'm not giving Seibold a free pass but honestly blaming the coach for everything is fcking as lazy as Matt Lodge.
Great post.I think the players, especially the senior players and so-called leaders in the team, have to share in the blame. They are giving him nothing. But I do think Seibold's focus on our "weapons" in attack has been at the expense of our defence, which is as bad as it's always been. That has to be fixed.
All in all, I'm torn on Seibold and whether he's the right coach for this team. Part of me thinks nobody is the right coach for this team. The senior players are either too stubborn or set in their ways to change, and the rest of the team is caught up in that "hero play" mentality.
I like that Seibold is a good communicator, especially with the media, but I fear that a lot of his words are empty mantras, and they ring especially hollow when the players don't back them up.
I also like his focus on club history and tradition, but again, I'm not sure it amounts to much on the field. Those "The Manly Way" segments look great on YouTube and other social media, but a team's "culture" and identity is established through its deeds on the field, not in pre-season camps and lecture halls.
Look at the Dolphins. They've existed as an NRL team for two years and they've already got an identity as a tough, hardworking team that will stay in games and compete to the end. They've also got a few "weapons" of their own and can score tries in bunches. Cobbling that team together from nothing may well be Wayne Bennett's masterpiece.
Then you look at us. What's our identity? A team that can build a lead but can't hang onto it. A team that can't defend - in the middle, or on the edges. A team that can score some really pretty tries but will more often than not self-destruct. A team that can't rely on its leaders. A team that won't compete for 80 minutes.
There is no reason for any other team in the NRL to be scared of us, even when they're down by 20, because they know there's always a way back against this team.
In the end, it all comes down to winning. And, rightly or wrongly, it's going to land at Seibold's feet. He has a lot to fix and not much time to fix it in, and he's beginning to look like somebody who knows he's in over his head.
Of course he should be accountable.I don't think anyone on here is saying he shouldn't be.Coach sets the game plans, selects the players, sets the attacking and defence structures. So yes, I hold him accountable
I like that. Manly have enough points in them.If I were Siebold I'd be tempted to just scrap the playbook entirely and switch ALL focus to defence for a few weeks. Just train for defence. Forget about attack. They know how to attack. For a few weeks just focus solely on defence. Yeah we might lose some games in the process, but as others have said, this team needs a whole new focus and a whole new identity. No team ever won a comp playing the way we do. EVER.
If I were Siebold I'd be tempted to just scrap the playbook entirely and switch ALL focus to defence for a few weeks. Just train for defence. Forget about attack. They know how to attack. For a few weeks just focus solely on defence. Yeah we might lose some games in the process, but as others have said, this team needs a whole new focus and a whole new identity. No team ever won a comp playing the way we do. EVER.
Torn ????All in all, I'm torn on Seibold and whether he's the right coach for this team.
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10 | 8 | 2 | 81 | 18 | |
10 | 7 | 3 | 70 | 16 | |
10 | 7 | 3 | 69 | 16 | |
11 | 7 | 4 | 59 | 14 | |
10 | 6 | 4 | -10 | 14 | |
11 | 6 | 5 | 107 | 12 | |
11 | 6 | 5 | -9 | 12 | |
10 | 5 | 5 | -56 | 12 | |
11 | 5 | 5 | 30 | 11 | |
10 | 4 | 6 | 15 | 10 | |
11 | 5 | 6 | -12 | 10 | |
11 | 4 | 6 | -7 | 9 | |
10 | 3 | 7 | -103 | 8 | |
10 | 2 | 8 | -81 | 6 | |
10 | 2 | 8 | -91 | 6 | |
10 | 1 | 9 | -186 | 4 |