2020 hooker (and Fainu disc.)
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Growler FNQ
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hissy fit over. this sort of stuff does rile me though,
go manly.
manly al
First Grader
Good on ya but you are not wrong about that sort of rubbish and negative press being a bit of a blight on the club "s image and best interests .
Hmm.Don't you think it is barking up the wrong tree to imply that art and media should change their spin in order to reduce crime or gangs? Sure, there is artistic romanticising in gang shows, but no more than in cop shows. And wholesome family shows too, for that matter
I'm sure you'd agree the romantic aspect in either case is firmly based in material reality. for example, everyone knows that some people do actually achieve power and wealth by breaking the law, but that comes with danger and risk. This danger and risk is the romantic aspect, and it is not fictional, it is real
Also I don’t see how your argument is advanced at all by pointing out rich kids who become criminals, or poor kids who make good?
Your argument sounds like blaming the illegal ice trade on Breaking Bad. Or blaming West Side Story for Manhattan street gangs having knife fights. Wonderfully artistic shows, but wouldn't you agree it is more likely the real ice trade, and the real street gangs, are what caused those shows to strike such a chord of reality with their audiences? Like The Godfather, and countless others. I mean, everyone in Sydney knew about Abe Saffron, and he sure wasn't fictional.
Kevinward777
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I’m all for artistic expression and freedom of speech... my point is that real criminals are being glamourised on various platforms and it is having an impact. There is a world of difference between fictional programming and putting real life murderers up on a pedestal. The actual drug trade itself is a whole other argument in my opinion. Of course the international drug cartels have an impact on crime and addiction. Along with the huge pharmaceutical conglomerates, they are doing an exceptional job at poisoning young lives.
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Yes I know that's your point.
I see Marvel characters are being glamourised and no doubt that's having an impact too
Not to mention NRL players and other sportsmen
Kevinward777
First Grader
I just don’t see the correlation between fictional super heroes, successful sportsmen, and career criminals...Yes I know that's your point.
I see Marvel characters are being glamourised and no doubt that's having an impact too
Shoe1
Journey Man
The super villains such as dr evil inspire criminal gangs. Probably.
Good, back on track
How long his trail for ?
urulion
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That would be a huge thread, enormous topics may surface like laws assented under Queen of Australia since the enactment of the Australia Act in 1986 (when the queen of Ausrtralia doesn't exist), Judges and Politicians who do they really swear their oath to? Why are bank and financial institution CEO's not in jail (gaol)?
May need a thread that runs on for many years
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Don't worry about it. My point, for what it's worth, was merely that if Gladys suddenly announces she has a new strategy to combat youths joining criminal gangs, and the strategy is... (drum roll) "I'm going to censor how criminals are portrayed on tv and the media"... I reckon we'd all go... "er, wtf???"
I would anyway, lol
Kevinward777
First Grader
Which real life
Definitely. And there is obviously a wide ranging set of issues which are all contributing to the increasing problem we can see today.
MuzztheEagle
Bencher
How do you know the problem is increasing? Today's activity doesn't really seem to be as bad as Cabramatta in the 80's and 90s. Hell, what about the cross in the past?
Kevinward777
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Footage shows how thugs as young as 12 are running riot
Businesses and home owners are speaking out against thugs who wreak havoc on neighborhoods as the Australian government considers increasing the age of criminal responsibility.
Kevinward777
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Police arrest 16 'street crime gang' members as tensions rise ahead of White Night
Sixteen teens from rival suburban street gangs have been arrested during pre-dawn raids as tensions continue to rise among young people in Melbourne's south-east.
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