Pre-Game Chooks V Manly [Finals Week 2, 2024]

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21 Sep 2024 07:50 PM

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bob dylan

First Grader
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Hope you're right Bob. However, I suspect they are a little better than you rate them.

You have seen them this season, draw your own conclusions but flogging Dragons, Bunnies and Titans just doesnt cut it with me. Better sides missed the top 8 in my opinion.

Led us 22-0 early when they beat us 34-30. That was their best win of the season.

They might prove to be way too good on the day but they have barely fired a shot in 2024 against a decent side.
 
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Mark from Brisbane

“ Boomer still Booming”
Premium Member
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You have seen them this season, draw your own conclusions but flogging Dragons, Bunnies and Titans just doesnt cut it with me. Better sides missed the top 8 in my opinion.

Led us 22-0 early when they beat us 34-30. That was their best win of the season.

They might prove to be way too good on the day but they have barely fired a shot in 2024 against a decent side.
I’m 100% with you on this , they are stacked with stars but there’s a lot of individuals on that team and that’s not as good as a team of “ players “.
 

Terry Zarsoff

First Grader
From Christian Nicolussi, SMH:


Manly muscle: Meet the Sea Eagles’ unlikely king of the gym

By Christian Nicolussi
September 20, 2024 — 3.45pm

Asked to guess which Manly player can crank the heaviest weight, most Sea Eagles fans would nominate two-metre front-rower Taniela Paseka. Maybe fellow props Matt Lodge or Josh Aloiai, or even explosive back-rower Haumole Olakau’atu.

But in what might come as a shock to most supporters, Ethan Bullemor – the Nathan Hindmarsh look-a-like who works in banking one day a week – has blown away his teammates to be crowned ‘King of the Gym’ at Brookvale.

“ Nobody else has bench-pressed 170kg this year, although I did do 180kg when I was playing with the Broncos – maybe I peaked when I was 19,” said Bullemor, now 24. “My best with the bench pull is 140kg, and I did 60kg with the weighted chin-up.

“A big thing with gym work is it helps with injury prevention – the stronger you are through your muscles and joints, it helps protect your tendons and other bits and pieces. ‘Weak Things Break’ was always the slogan we had.

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King of the gym: Ethan BullemorCREDIT: JAMES BRICKWOOD/SMH

“The heavy lifting also transitions on to the field in some respects. I don’t often play big minutes, but when I do come on, I try to bring that explosiveness and power game.”

Manly’s head of performance Jon Clarke, who played for Great Britain and worked with England Rugby and Rugby Australia, said Bullemor was one of the strongest athletes he had encountered.

“In my experience, back-rowers in union are the most powerful players I’ve come across – but ‘Bull’ would mix it with any of them, without a doubt,” Clarke said.

“English back-rowers Tom Curry and Sam Underhill were unbelievably powerful, and Bull would sit right alongside them.


Manly forward Ethan Bullemor bench pressed a season-best 170kg this year.CREDIT: JAMES BRICKWOOD/SMH

“He has an ability to move heavy things quickly. That shows in the way he plays. He’s explosive, quick off the mark, and very good at changing direction. We saw all that with the try he scored on the weekend [against Canterbury].”

Clarke said Paseka and Corey Waddell lifted a lot of weight, but were no match for 110kg Bullemor.

Bullemor grew up in the Queensland country town of Springsure, about 750km north-west of Brisbane, and developed good habits in the gym when introduced to strength and conditioning training while attending Nudgee College on a rugby scholarship.

Bullemor will bring plenty of power off the bench on Saturday, and knows the Roosters pack will “be the best version of themselves” after being soundly beaten by Penrith’s own middle last Friday.
 
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BOZO

Journey Man
Tipping Member
Plenty of manly fans are meeting at Watson’s EQ pub at the entertainment quarter at Moore park on Saturday from 4pm for pre game drinks. Spread the word. Let’s take over Roosters territory
The Manly fans smell Rooster Blood and they also taste the long awaited Manly Premiership win
We have not come this far to come this far
We have come to conquer and take back what belongs to us
This is our time
and We are the authors of our destiny
Lets write our next premiership Winning chapter with the never say die premiership winning Manly spirit and Glorify the Greatest club of all The Legendary Manly Warringah Sea eagles
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Terry Zarsoff

First Grader
From Dan Walsh, SMH:

The NRL intellectuals: Rugby league’s intrepid thinkers to square-off

By Dan Walsh
September 20, 2024 — 3.33pm

‘Chase five rabbits, catch none’ is the Confucius proverb Anthony Seibold tweaks when the question turns to a coach’s game-day address.

Seibold’s rugby league rabbit chase has taken him from the south of Wales, to Harvard University, then Redfern to Red Hill, and now a sudden-death semi-final opposite Trent Robinson’s Roosters.

Robinson’s own coaching road stretches back to a 28-year-old with busted knees and a motorbike in the south of France, and has taken his side just as far from the typical day in the life of an NRL player.

“Well, there was the sweat lodge this pre-season, talking about different energies and mindsets,” off-season recruit Dom Young grins.

“That’s something I never would’ve considered myself.”

Hooker Connor Watson - finally injury-free and with a career-best campaign, featuring NSW Origin debut, to show for it - offers more.

“We’ve done it a few times now, and I definitely wouldn’t have done something like it if I wasn’t at the Roosters or playing under Robbo,” he says.

“I couldn’t tell you how hot it gets, but it’s brutal and you’re in this tent for almost two hours.

“The guy running it opens the floor up for people to speak about different things, a couple of songs go around. It can be pretty funny to be honest. It’s definitely different.

“We’re there in shorts, and you’re sitting on the grass. And I’ve done one of these sweat lodges before, looked down and there’s a huntsman sitting there next to me on the ground. I didn’t know if I was hallucinating or what, but no, a big old spider right there next to me. Like I said, different.”

An NRL coach hunting for a psychological or physical edge hardly makes him Columbus.

Michael Maguire’s baseball bat in the dressing room, Des Hasler’s calf’s blood and Jack Gibson’s return from the US with bounties of video and statistical analysis half a century ago make for some of rugby league’s most regularly spun yarns.

For Seibold especially, boiling a career-long treasure-hunt for philosophies, theories and ‘one-percenters’ down to bite-sized morsels for his players has been a winding, wending evolution.

His famed gravel in a blender voice stems from a knock to the throat almost 25 years ago playing for London Broncos.

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Anthony Seibold during his playing days with Canberra in 1998.CREDIT: NRL IMAGERY

The irony is it has been exacerbated by his passion for teaching and university lecturing, and then coaching - vocations that have you talking all day, every day.

Over the years he has swapped ideas with types from all walks of life - from AFL coaches Ken Hinkley and Luke Beveridge to advertising guru Todd Sampson, fashion show director Kannon Rajah and Commonwealth Bank CEO Matt Comyn.

It’s easy to see how the two rabbits Confucius initially spoke of chasing more than doubles, and information overload in his game plans was a stinging criticism of Seibold’s ill-fated stint at Brisbane.

“He does more video and preparation than any coach I’ve had, his attention to detail is what stands out,” veteran five-eighth Luke Brooks says.

Seibold in the back row of the Waratahs’ coaches box, with Jason Gilmore (left) and Darren Coleman (right) in the front row earlier this year.

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Seibold in the back row of the Waratahs’ coaches box, with Jason Gilmore (left) and Darren Coleman (right) in the front row earlier this year.CREDIT: STAN SPORT

As game day draws closer though, “simple messages and narrowing the focus is important for footy players,” Seibold says.

“We go after two or three things individually and/or collectively with the players. There is an old saying ‘chase five rabbits, get none’. We don’t overload the players with too much. We want our players to ‘think less and do more’ on the field.”

When Comyn was invited into Seibold’s coaching box in round two for what proved a resounding win over the Roosters, the boss of Australia’s largest company marvelled at how compact the Manly halftime address was.

“Science of retrieval” is the basis - picked up during his time on Eddie Jones’ English rugby union coaching staff - and notion that there’s no use introducing new ideas, or too many of them, at such a pressure point in proceedings.

Robinson too has travelled similar terrain since he arrived in Toulouse to play in the French domestic competition, his teammates soon dubbing him ‘The Intellectual’.

Widely read and just as widely travelled, Robinson rode his motorbike from southern France to Athens, met his wife and grew fluent in both French and rugby league once his playing days ended and coaching began.

Roosters players often describe him as the smartest man they’ve ever met.

Rival coaches and fans have bristled for years at how that comes across, particularly when Robinson is asked for an opinion on wider issues in the game.

“Check out the big brain on Robbo” was how colleague Andrew Webster aptly summed up the sentiment six years ago.

Inside the Roosters’ $12 million offices at Allianz Stadium though, Robinson’s rugby league brain takes charge on a replica NRL field painted onto the floor of the team’s meeting room.

Numbered blocks are used to map out game plans and tactics like a game of human chess.

“I think sometimes he can confuse a few blokes,” Nat Butcher laughs.

“I don’t know if everyone is always understanding the direction he’s heading in just because there is so much knowledge behind what he’s saying.

“But you can see him pull it back sometimes, maybe for the front-rowers, and he’ll always get his point across.”

As reigning champion in the club’s NFL Fantasy Football league, he’s got a bit of their cash and a treasured trophy too.

Robinson is loath to give his players and staff an inch in the competition.

But it’s long been a different story at the start of each pre-season, when Roosters players are gathered to map out a set of standards to live, train and play by for the upcoming campaign.

Robinson guides the conversation, but it’s the players who dominate it.

Sea Eagles skipper Daly Cherry-Evans says a similar approach from Seibold has been critical in their development and Manly’s rise to the finals for the first time since 2021.

After Seibold’s contract negotiations were put on hold in May to let the side’s results speak for themselves, talks will pick up again whenever Manly’s off-season kicks off, with CEO Tony Mestrov pushing for an extra year or two on the deal.

“Part of his [coaching] style is working with the senior players around how we want to play,” Cherry-Evans says.

“And that’s been a big area for me to improve at - being able to delegate to others and bring others into the leadership side of things.

“I’m very much a doer, so part of my own learning as a captain is involving Jake and Tom [Trbojevic] in the leadership side of things and communicating better. Seibs has definitely helped and encouraged that.”
 
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TJ55

Bulldogs tragic living in heart of Manly-Warringah
The Manly fans smell Rooster Blood and they also taste the long awaited Manly Premiership win
We have not come this far to come this far
We have come to conquer and take back what belongs to us
This is our time
and We are the authors of our destiny
Lets write our next premiership Winning chapter with the never say die premiership winning Manly spirit and Glorify the Greatest club of all The Legendary Manly Warringah Sea eagles
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Best of luck tommorow Bozo
Your team is worthy of the win with the guts they have displayed and can show they can go head to head with the top side, a mate of mine attended the funeral of former Manly halfback Ed Wiley today whom he was friends with, I hope they get the win for him I do no often wish the opposition luck but proud fans I have a lot of time and respect for all the best
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Andrew John Tipped roosters by 14 +. He was Worried by Garrick coming in defence and leaving big holes in backline defence . I hope our coach pays attention Joey Johns.
 

The Wheel

https://membership.seaeagles.com.au/
Premium Member
The Manly fans smell Rooster Blood and they also taste the long awaited Manly Premiership win
We have not come this far to come this far
We have come to conquer and take back what belongs to us
This is our time
and We are the authors of our destiny
Lets write our next premiership Winning chapter with the never say die premiership winning Manly spirit and Glorify the Greatest club of all The Legendary Manly Warringah Sea eagles
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Hope your going to the game Bozo to bring maximum Manly passion
 

The Insomniac

Reserve Grader
You have seen them this season, draw your own conclusions but flogging Dragons, Bunnies and Titans just doesnt cut it with me. Better sides missed the top 8 in my opinion.

Led us 22-0 early when they beat us 34-30. That was their best win of the season.

They might prove to be way too good on the day but they have barely fired a shot in 2024 against a decent side.
Again I hope you're correct. We'll soon see.
 

Mark from Brisbane

“ Boomer still Booming”
Premium Member
Tipping Member
As far as the bookies are concerned , we’re ****ed !!

Roosters coming in , and we are blowing out.

No worries about being the underdogs , we are MASSIVE underdogs.
 

davohan123

First Grader
Premium Member
Tipping Member
Been at a work conference all week so haven't read through this thread.

Here is my take

Its a free shot tomorrow
No one rates us
Roosters at home
2 big ins for them.

roosters are deserved favourites and will probably win but they are beatable.

It's all about the start.

Roosters will want to start fast and do what Penrith did to them last week.

If our right side of Ruben Lehi don't dce don't defend well that's where the roosters will attack.

If the roosters get a lot of possession on our line early and we crack could be a long night

roosters by 14
Our GF was last week
 
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