Coach Seibold thoughts so far.... so good

[Tragic Eagle]

Get this:

Nearly 3/4 way into the season...
Manly ranking 7th in attack
3rd in defence


3rd in defence!!! (admittedly conceding only 1 point fewer than Panthers and Wahs, yet… 3rd!)

This is unlikely to be a fluke. In fact, clearly a plan of the coaching staff. For years we’ve all said defence is the main thing we need to improve, although there’s been different theories about how to do that.

Could this be why DCE is leaving? He was told we’ll only be offering a reduced deal, in part because we want him to play a far simpler, safer style so that we can play a pressure game. Less ad lib risky brilliance. As Manly’s greatest ever star (maybe in his own mind?) this was a big insult, hence, “Seeya”.*

Regardless – if Manly can keep working on this high possession, low error rate formula, we’ve still got enough firepower to beat the best. And that style is so much better for my heart rate!!



*mere guesswork/conspiracy theory by me 😊

The irony is that Robinson won't let him play any other way. Its all about the money!

 

[Rocky]

I remember the first couple of months of Seibs time at Manly saw a marked improvement in our contract; it was brutal and I thought we’d turned a corner in defence. For whatever reason, we couldn’t sustain it for too long into the season. The last few weeks have been as close as we’ve come to getting back to that style. There’s a real emphasis on line speed in yardage defence and the contact can be brutal at times. This type of approach requires serious discipline to be effective when intent spills over into ‘going early’ or ‘high tackle’ penalties. I’ve been so impressed with the discipline in our approach to restricting the opposition’s go forward.

Some quality observations.

And I will pot Siebold in going away from this and to be too obsessed about "our weapons"

We should have enough points in us with the strike power on the field - so doubling down on this strategy was a mistake.

 

[Ned]

So if Hoppas old man is largely responsible for Lehi.....does that mean the juniors who haven't/didn't make it isn't Seibolds doing, but their own parents?

it means Hoppa should be Manly coach, or at least in charge of player development haha

 

[Jethro]

Great win. Three in a row now
We haven’t won four in a row since 2021 from memory.
Deserves credit for the last three weeks
If he gets us in the top 4 that would be a magnificent achievement

Rounds 18 (Cowboys @ TVL), 19 (Knights @ Brookie), & 20 (Titans @ Brookie) last year, was the last time that we won three in a row.

Rounds 3 (Dogs @ Brookie), 4 (Raiders @ Brookie), 5 (Knights @ Newcastle) & 6 (Titans @ Brookie) of the 2022 season, was the last time that we won four in a row.

Rounds 11 (Titans @ Cbus), 13 (Raiders @ Brookie), 14 (Knights @ Brookie), 16 (Sharks @ PointsBet Stadium), & 17 (Warriors @ Perth) of the 2017 season, was the last time that we won five in a row.

Rounds 17 (Eels @ Brookie), 18 (Cowboys @ TVL), 19 (Titans @ Brookie), 20 (Tigers @ Campbelltown), 21 (Eels @ Parramatta), & 22 (Warriors @ Brookie) of the 2013 season, was the last time that we won six in a row.

Rounds 12 (Raiders @ Canberra), 13 (Chooks @ Brookie), 15 (Warriors @ NZ), 16 (Knights @ Gosford), 17 (Titans @ Cbus), 18 (Sharks @ PointsBet Stadium), & 19 (Eels @ Brookie) of the 2008 season, was the last time that we won seven in a row.

Rounds 4 (Chargers @ Carrara Stadium), 5 (Warriors @ Brookie), 6 (Crushers @ Lang Park), 7 (Cowboys @ Brookie), 8 (Dragons @ Kogarah), 9 (Dogs @ Brookie), 10 (Raiders @ Brookie), 11 (Broncos @ ANZ Brisbane), & 12 (Bears @ Brookie) of the 1996 season, was the last time that we won nine in a row.

Rounds 1 (Rabbitss @ SFS), 2 (GC Seagulls @ Seagulls Tweed Heads), 3 (Bears @ NS Oval), 4 (GC Seagulls @ Brookie), 5 (Warriors @ NZ), 6 (SQ Crushers @ Brookie), 7 (Cowboys @ TVL), 8 (Dragons @ Brookie), 9 (Dogs @ Parramatta), 10 (Raiders @ Bruce), 11 (Broncos @ Brookie), 12 (Bears @ Brookie), 13 (Western Reds @ Brookie), 14 (Steelers @ Brookie), & 15 (Eels @ Parramatta) of the 1995 season, was the last time that we won fifteen in a row.

 

[eaglebuzz]

I get the feeling that Seibold's real niche is as a "football Dept" manager .... the bloke that oversees the complete football operation in a ... "The Manly Way" type role.

I believe this is the basis for his reported position of standing aside for the likes of Ennis to come on board as Head coach in charge of the actual player coaching and game tactics.

Not a big fan of this arrangement normally ... ego's usually get in the way ... but I think Seibold could probably make it work ..

I actually think this could be a real win if it happens. Siebold to run the ship, Ennis to coach the players. Both would be doing what they are best at.

 

[TheSoaringEagle2023]

Who knows what constitutes logic in his world ...

Didn't you say you weren't going to reply to my posts a while ago and took a long winded break..what happened? So you wait till there is a bit of a pile on and then you jump on the bandwagon.

 

[Woodsie]

Didn't you say you weren't going to reply to my posts a while ago and took a long winded break..what happened? So you wait till there is a bit of a pile on and then you jump on the bandwagon.

I think you would be better served pondering why there has been a pile on ... rather than getting sooky.

You could always blame your dad ...

 

[Phobia]

I get the feeling that Seibold's real niche is as a "football Dept" manager .... the bloke that oversees the complete football operation in a ... "The Manly Way" type role.

I believe this is the basis for his reported position of standing aside for the likes of Ennis to come on board as Head coach in charge of the actual player coaching and game tactics.

Not a big fan of this arrangement normally ... ego's usually get in the way ... but I think Seibold could probably make it work ..

I thought Seibold later explained this whole idea, as to not have another club restart, should the club wish to move in a different direction. I'm not sure if the "moving to management" part is actually true.

On an unrelated note about people discussing the contact in defence, I remember Paul Kent saying that he spoke to Seibold when he first arrived at the Broncos. Seibold apparently brought out a series of stats, and told Kent that the Broncos were light-years behind the physical numbers of the Rabbitohs, that he had just left. Remember, this was a Bennett-coached team before him.

Seibold wants his players in absolutely prime condition, and it may have been the case that they were simply not up to it in 2023, coming off Des's largely antique team-wide setup. After a few years, they are likely much more physically suited to what Seibold wants to see.

 

[Phobia]

Rounds 18 (Cowboys @ TVL), 19 (Knights @ Brookie), & 20 (Titans @ Brookie) last year, was the last time that we won three in a row.

Rounds 3 (Dogs @ Brookie), 4 (Raiders @ Brookie), 5 (Knights @ Newcastle) & 6 (Titans @ Brookie) of the 2022 season, was the last time that we won four in a row.

Rounds 11 (Titans @ Cbus), 13 (Raiders @ Brookie), 14 (Knights @ Brookie), 16 (Sharks @ PointsBet Stadium), & 17 (Warriors @ Perth) of the 2017 season, was the last time that we won five in a row.

Rounds 17 (Eels @ Brookie), 18 (Cowboys @ TVL), 19 (Titans @ Brookie), 20 (Tigers @ Campbelltown), 21 (Eels @ Parramatta), & 22 (Warriors @ Brookie) of the 2013 season, was the last time that we won six in a row.

Rounds 12 (Raiders @ Canberra), 13 (Chooks @ Brookie), 15 (Warriors @ NZ), 16 (Knights @ Gosford), 17 (Titans @ Cbus), 18 (Sharks @ PointsBet Stadium), & 19 (Eels @ Brookie) of the 2008 season, was the last time that we won seven in a row.

Rounds 4 (Chargers @ Carrara Stadium), 5 (Warriors @ Brookie), 6 (Crushers @ Lang Park), 7 (Cowboys @ Brookie), 8 (Dragons @ Kogarah), 9 (Dogs @ Brookie), 10 (Raiders @ Brookie), 11 (Broncos @ ANZ Brisbane), & 12 (Bears @ Brookie) of the 1996 season, was the last time that we won nine in a row.

Rounds 1 (Rabbitss @ SFS), 2 (GC Seagulls @ Seagulls Tweed Heads), 3 (Bears @ NS Oval), 4 (GC Seagulls @ Brookie), 5 (Warriors @ NZ), 6 (SQ Crushers @ Brookie), 7 (Cowboys @ TVL), 8 (Dragons @ Brookie), 9 (Dogs @ Parramatta), 10 (Raiders @ Bruce), 11 (Broncos @ Brookie), 12 (Bears @ Brookie), 13 (Western Reds @ Brookie), 14 (Steelers @ Brookie), & 15 (Eels @ Parramatta) of the 1995 season, was the last time that we won fifteen in a row.

This reads quite funny...

15 in a row - 1995's generational side, an incredible record.

9 in a row - The same 1996 side who eventually won the comp that year.

7 in a row - The brilliant 2008 side, who won the GF 40-0.

6 in a row - Our second-best attacking side of the NRL-era, that should've won the GF.

5 in a row - Twent.

Clearly the answer to our problems is bring back Barrett! Des 2.0 & Seibs are bloody imbeciles, Barrett has a winning mentality!