Sometimes you can get Bargain buys and prosper with a proper coach
Proper coaches over achieve like Bellamy or Ciraldo that Brings out the Best out of those Bargain Buy players .
On the other hand if you have an underachieving Mediocre coach . He will have his team icludinng his star players underperforming.
This why a Clever coach is critical
Those two clubs as examples reinforces the need for $$$$ and a club willing to play the long game coach.
Storm and Bulldogs since Landy both are cashed up clubs .
Yes invested in a young coach with a long game plan. But $$$$$ spent on getting junior stars to the club and staffing far exceeding Manly.
At Manly Ciraldo would get the sack when the coach was trying to change a loser culture with a wrestling session that resulted in some players including their Captain at the time, trowing their toys out of the cot.
Manly and Seibold might actually be in a very similar places right now. Captain DCE has absolutely thrown his toys, and the culture of this group with Captain DCE has been crap.
Manly won't back Seibold like Dogs backed Ciraldo. Manly $$ won't get recent premiership winning rep players like Button, Crichton, Kikau and Tuipinoua, build from whilst buying outstanding juniors to grow into the team.
No point us arguing over if Seibold is the man or not at the moment.
We need Manly successful, and not what moving forward, it needs $$$$$ invested to get this club back being a premiership power house. .