Post-Game Discussion Knights v Manly [Round 13, 2023]

[bringbackbeaver]

I’m sorry weekes is not a first grade fullback. He’s possibly a 14 maybe. He’s not up to standard at all. Cooper Johns is not up to it either. Sorry, tried hard but he’s not up to standard. Defence was much better in the second half when Arthur was on. In some parts of our attack it seriously looked like we had literally put this team together from complete strangers. Schuster running around backwards, players not running proper angles. It was a rabble today. Which I guess is fair enough when we’re missing the players we were but why can the good clubs just bring the next man in and it works.

Well said .

 

[TheSoaringEagle2023]

Without the benefit of hindsight, I think seibold made the right selections. I was happy to give weekes another shot at fullback and Johns a shot at 7, given Arthur had less than a week training with the team.

I think we will see Garrick at 1 and Arthur at 7 next time.

Johns played well in the trials, that's probably why Seibold made the selections. He partnered well with Schuster in those 2 games. Even though Croker had a decent game today, it was Gordie who played those 2 trial games and really layed the platform for Johns to have a decent game in those 2 games.

 

[eagleron]

Mixed bag, gutsy with the ball in hand but very ordinary with it, most of them weren’t interested in any effort off the ball

If DCE plays, we win comfortably

Johns is woeful, and Seibold can have a huge piece of the blame pie for firstly picking him then leaving him on so long

Rorted by the refs, never a clearer example than Garrick held down for an age then we got pinged next set for nothing. Did a hell of a job defensively to stay in the fight considering the possession and field position

Koula had a day to forget, but that ruling was an absolute joke, if Ponga got hit in the head at all, he wouldn’t get back up. And they try that followed, we may have stripped it, but he still made contact with it after that action into a Manly arm

Olakau’atu had a really bludge today, big bandaging but he had no interest in running the ball. Compare him to Fainu who went looking for it

I thought Olakau'atu would come out hard to show Freddie what he'd be missing on Wednesday but he may just as well have stayed home

 

[NREagle]

Arthur has potential but he did play like he'd been around the team for only a few days....

I think Seibold erred in not bringing him on earlier though as Johns was all at sea out there.

Feel for Johns as he is likeable and tries hard but he does not look comfortable in first grade for us. In such a key position for the side surely they can't keep selecting him....

 

[XV-1]

I thought Olakau'atu would come out hard to show Freddie what he'd be missing on Wednesday but he may just as well have stayed home

He was too busy tackling his side and Johns side.
Then he had to catch Johns crisp passes 🤮

 

[Highflier]

Very poor reffing and bunker.

they should at least wear a mask as they pretty much stole 2 points of us ,

 

[XV-1]

Arthur has potential but he did play like he'd been around the team for only a few days....

I think Seinold erred in not bringing him on earlier though as Johns was all at sea out there.

Feel for Johns as he is likeable and tries hard but he does not look comfortable in first grade for us. In such a key position for the side surely they can't keep selecting him....

Agree, Arthur should have come on after 35 mins just before half time.

 

[TheSoaringEagle2023]

He was too busy tackling his side and Johns side.
Then he had to catch Johns crisp passes 🤮

He saved a few tries. I think teams have done their homework on him now and know how to defend against him.

 

[TheSoaringEagle2023]

I think it seems apparent to me that Shuster and Turbo can't really exist without each other.
(I know it sounds homoerotic), because both seem to only play well when they are both out there.

 

[SeaEagleRock8]

Knights dominated possession, aided in part by plenty of leg up penalties that seemed very generous to this Manly fan.
So I can't knock the effort, in fact it was only a dud bunker call that got them ahead late. And the sinbin which was ridiculous.
Fainu has arrived, he is going to be a good player, he'll stay in the 17 surely.
Johns was given a chance to play himself into or out of the side, we all know which way that went. Bad luck Cooper, seems a decent bloke.
Koula is better than that.
Oh yeah, Schu. Hmmm. Work in progress.

 

[XV-1]

He saved a few tries. I think teams have done their homework on him now and know how to defend against him.

Yep, he needs to learn to run from deeper and pass outside him to Koula every now and then to have the D thinking more.

 

[TheSoaringEagle2023]

Knights dominated possession, aided in part by plenty of leg up penalties that seemed very generous to this Manly fan.
So I can't knock the effort, in fact it was only a dud bunker call that got them ahead late. And the sinbin which was ridiculous.
Fainu has arrived, he is going to be a good player, he'll stay in the 17 surely.
Johns was given a chance to play himself into or out of the side, we all know which way that went. Bad luck Cooper, seems a decent bloke.
Koula is better than that.
Oh yeah, Schu. Hmmm. Work in progress.

Even though some calls went against us, I think we just weren't good enough.

 

[redlineg]

He's got a rookie fullback and a park footy 5/8 as his spine. He can't do everything.

On the cash he is on he needs to find consistency
Brilliant last week, and some poor options this week
Hoping he keeps improving

 

[TheSoaringEagle2023]

We need runners out of dummy half in the same way Manase / Api were with us a few years back and it seems we don't have anyone aside from Turbo that can do that. Attack is just too predictable, giving it to a forward one off the ruck to cart it up. We look too predictable.

 

[NREagle]

I'm not disappointed after that loss - actually feel better about today's game than I did about the draw!

Our middle of Paseka, Keppie and Sipley did well.

This week showed why origin should be a stand alone round.

DCE and Tom in and we win that.

 

[TheSoaringEagle2023]

On the cash he is on he needs to find consistency
Brilliant last week, and some poor options this week
Hoping he keeps improving

What can more can he do on his own? He's also got a 9 who's only strength is his defence. So he's got no help in the 1,6 and 9 positions today.

 

[redlineg]

Yeah our coaching staff are really just experimenting this year. I don’t think they really know all the strengths and weaknesses of all the players

Unfortunately this could exactly be the problem
Every two or three years we seem to start a ‘5 year plan’ without seeing through the last plan.

 

[Marto1970]

I was glad to see Weekes get the fullback role but he didn't do himself any favours tonight, Garrick should be fullback next game and Vega/ Tippytoes wing , John's should never play again give Humphries a go give Arthur some time to become a ball playing forward and bring Gordon onto the bench

 

[Jethro]

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FULL TIME SCORE

Knights: 28
Manly: 18

Pic: Manly Warringah Sea Eagles Facebook Page

Pic: Manly Warringah Sea Eagles Facebook Page


Team Victory Song:

Pressers:

Sea Eagles: Round 13

Anthony Seibold and Lachlan Croker chat to the media after their Round 13 clash with the Knights

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Post Match Interviews: TBA



Match Report:

Gallant Sea Eagles fight to end in loss to Knights

A gallant Manly Warringah Sea Eagles fought to the very end in a 28-18 loss to the Newcastle Knights at McDonald Jones Stadium today in round 13 of the Telstra Premiership.

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Marzhew the hat-trick hero as Knights overcome Sea Eagles at home

A Greg Marzhew hat-trick led the Knights to a gutsy 28-18 win over the Sea Eagles in front of home fans on Sunday afternoon.

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Game Stats Review:

FULL TIME: Knights vs Sea Eagles

Sunday 28th May 2023, 4:05pm at McDonald Jones Stadium.

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Match Highlights:

Knights v Sea Eagles - Round 13, 2023

The Newcastle Knights and Manly-Warringah Sea Eagles face-off in Round 13 of the NRL Telstra Premiership

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Nine's Wide World of Sports, Match Results & Live Scores

Nine Wide World of Sports breaking news headlines, live scores and match results

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Full Match Replay Link: TBA



Manly Tries:

Freakish brilliance from Schuster

Josh Schuster comes up with a smart intercept and sends Reuben Garrick away to score

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Croker stays alive and is rewarded

Sea Eagles captain for the day Lachlan Croker stayed in the race and scored the go ahead try

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Jason Saab and Dom Young race off

Jason Saab makes the intercept but Dom Young chases him all the way to the end

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Game Pics & Video Clips:

Clever kick from Schuster

Josh Schuster stamps his mark on the game again, this time with his boot

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Terrific try saver

Haumole Olakau'atu comes up with a tremendous on Knights centre Bradman Best

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Nearly pin point perfect from Schuster

Josh Schuster is at it again with some excellent play

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Saab comes up with an amazing try saver

Manly deny Bradman Best for the second time today

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Koula sent to sin bin

Tolatau Koula goes to the bin for high contact on Kalyn Ponga

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Knights flyer snares hat-trick in Newcastle win

Manly goes down

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Press Print & Video Articles:

Ponga puts ‘foot on the pedal’ after THREE head knocks as hat-trick hero downs Manly

Ponga puts ‘foot on the pedal’ after THREE head knocks as sin bin sinks Manly - 3 Big Hits

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‘Just part of my game’: Ponga has to live with HIA role in Origin axing

Snubbed by Queensland coach Billy Slater, Knights talisman Kalyn Ponga says he can’t worry about his concussion history playing a role in at the selection table.

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Knights prevail against Sea Eagles to stay in touch with top eight

In a tight encounter in Newcastle, the Knights claim their fifth win of the season with a 28-18 defeat of the Sea Eagles as round 13 comes to a close.

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The Tackle: Ponga’s message for Slater after Origin omission​

Sea Eagles Judiciary News:

Manly centre Tolutau Koula has been charged with a Careless High Tackle offence following his side's loss to the Knights on Sunday.

Koula, who was sin binned in the second-half of Sunday's match for the offence involving Newcastle fullback Kalyn Ponga, has been charged with a Grade 1 Careless High Tackle and has been fined $1,000 with an early guilty plea.

NRL Judiciary Report: Asofa-Solomona guilty at panel, banned five matches

Storm forward Nelson Asofa-Solomona has been found guilty of a Grade 3 Careless High Tackle at the judiciary on Monday night and will miss the grand final against the Panthers.

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[Mark from Brisbane]

Sadly I missed the game , no coverage where I am , on air now thanks to a nearby caravanner who kindly lent me their Starlink access.

Reading the thread it sounds like we were about as **** as I thought we’d be!!

I had zero expectations for this game anyway.