Last play of the match vs Dragons

[simon64]

In all fairness, we actually got the rub of the green for much of the game. This call was ****, but they got a lot of other stuff right... which was very, very refreshing. And unusual.

This....Yeah we were 100% dudded on the block play.

But we got more than our share of the 50/50's over the course of the game.

I think I'll just move on even though it was a howler and plenty will be said over the next couple of days. Even the FOX commentators were shaking their heads.

 

[SeaEagle21]

DCE: “You were willing to make the hard call when game wasn’t on the line but unfortunately that call needed to be made.”

Seriously ranks as one of the best on field comments to a referee by a Manly captain ever. To nail that in the heat and emotion at the end was spot on and done without swearing and screaming and throwing arms around.

VERY impressive stuff from DCE.

Been waiting a long time for NRL captains to start acting like a captain, including where necessary making it clear that the referees are not the El Supremo of a NRL game. The two captains should be - just like in Test cricket.

The NRL needs to remove from referees the option to call for a video replay. The video replay should be on a captain's call basis (maybe 1 per half) and be allowed for any incident, not just tries.

Shows how he has grown as a leader. Very measured and targeted in his question, almost like listening to Des speak. He'll go to another level in the next couple of seasons

 

[Lyonstomenzies]

When he was speaking to the refs - I was thinking a) he's not going to get anywhere but kudos for seriously challenging it, and b) this is why DCE is captain over Jake.

If you watch again Jake is blowing up behind DCE and the ref, he looks like he’s going to drop someone.

 

[nightster]

The ref bottled a huge call, it was a block and everyone at the ground knew it!! Shame because our boys were heroic in defence in this game and very unlucky to lose last night!

James Graham certainly knew it .... that sort of refereeing is one of the main reasons for poor NPS numbers

 

[pt73]

Dont forget, Munro was the ref that tried to screw us against the warriors when Brandy said that he should be sacked for next week for his bad call

So why do we get morons like this reffing a top 8 game ?

He doesn’t even belong in NSW Cup.

 

[niccipops]

There was communication between the main ref, pocket ref/touche and the Greenberg video Surveillance Team.
Munro - Check Tim Lafai
GST (Greenberg Surveillance Team) to pocket ref/touchie - Wtf? Is he serious? End the game now! I repeat, end the game now!
Touchie - Err...all good Dave.
Final whistle is blown.
The GST may have been involved with the Parker decision too since it happened so late after the fact.

*Tin foil hat stuff of course. But sometimes with this scripted product called rugby league, nothing would surprise me.

 

[Fluffy]

In all fairness, we actually got the rub of the green for much of the game. This call was ****, but they got a lot of other stuff right... which was very, very refreshing. And unusual.

100% this is the JDB effect and some think Toddy doesn't drive the refs.

When was the last time we won a count 10-5?

 

[Waz13]

I was actually more frustrated with the Parker Aitken call than this one. If they are not in the act of scoring a try then the play shouldn’t be reviewed. I can stomach a bad call on the field by a ref on the run. The issue I have is the grey area of getting video refs involved in plays where it should just be left with the onfield official.

 

[Fluffy]

It’s a great idea. Video involvement only when captains think it’s a howler.Same system as cricket.

Tried it in a whole season of Toyota cup and worked well. Never heard of again.

Pretty sure it was tried in a dead rubber game involving Newcastle late in an NRL season as well. I remember Browny saying it was great with free flowing football and plenty of tries. Said he never received a follow up call.Refs have to make a call , games flow and the howlers like last night don’t happen.
Typical NRL.

of course it was dumped, takes away Toddy's control

 

[HoldenV8]

The problem as I see it is that the bunker is only supposed to be there to make calls on tries or no tries. The incident with Parker where the ball never even got to the in-goal was a call that should have been left to the refs and touch judge. If the refs missed it and the ball never even got to the in-goal area before it was cleaned up by the defence, play on. And then it was made worse by the refusal to give us the same courtesy on the last play of the game when Garrick was clearly run off the ball by a player with no intent on going for the ball.

What next, calling no try for an incident on halfway just to check for something they might have missed?

The NRL really does need to clean this area up because players, coaches and fans alike are getting frustrated about the picking and choosing of when the bunker gets involved. Either the bunker can be called on to make a judgement anywhere on the field (which the broadcasters will then whinge and moan about due to the amount of stoppages "ruining their spectacle".....I can just hear Gould complaining now), or they are only there to make calls on tries, and by that I mean whether or not the ball has been grounded and what led to that point.

Incidents like last nights with the Parker trip and the last play of the game are why the NRL needs to introduce a captains call. A captains call might well have still seen Parker penalised because intentional or not there was the hint of a trip. But it definitely would have seen Aitken penalised right at the end.

 

[globaleagle]

(?) ,Thinking that one was Fainu....But yes.

It was.

Sorry, they look far too similar!

 

[globaleagle]

Bah!

I'm still annoyed. Have to agree with others Re: Captains call option.

It's a DH reason not to use it. "Slows the game down too much." firstly, that's subjective, time is a relative construct, and secondly, as others have said, it's worked well everywhere they have tried it.

Plus you can't go on about 'refs being the almighty and should never be challenged' then in the next breath whine 'awww, c'mon, refs are human toooo and are going to make mistakes...'

It's just that with only 25 rounds, losing 2 points is a pretty big deal. I mean (ice) hockey has 82 games in a season: refs rip you off one, well it's a hell of a lot less important than if your season has only 25 games. Hockey also have a "coaches call" and they often will go to the bunker to get stuff right.

I think in each nrl game, the two points is about 4% of the total 'season' points you could get, in the nhl it's 1.5% -

IN conclusion...refs suck.

 

[Chip and Chase]

Anyway if we get the penalty what happens ?? DCE missed the Parker conversion from an easier angle earlier in the game so do we take the kick at goal ? Or do we just take the tap and bomb it to the other side of the field and hope for another escort penalty a bit closer to the sticks ?

 

[HoldenV8]

Amazing how it's only this sport that I watch where I'm continually peeved at the ref and the nrl's bias. Every other sport I watch it's generally ok.

Mate, you should check out some teams AFL pages after a loss. Just about every single time the only reason a team there loses, even if they get absolutely thrashed, is because of bad umpiring lol

 

[HoldenV8]

Anyway if we get the penalty what happens ?? DCE missed the Parker conversion from an easier angle earlier in the game so do we take the kick at goal ? Or do we just take the tap and bomb it to the other side of the field and hope for another escort penalty a bit closer to the sticks ?

Considering how this year they've not been allowing play to go on at either the end of the first half or at the end of the game, I think the only option would be to take a penalty goal because its likely that as soon as the ball is tapped or kicked into touch the game will be called.

 

[Chip and Chase]

If a penalty is given after the siren then they have to play on till the ball is dead. - i.e. tackle completed or ball goes out of play

 

[HoldenV8]

100% this is the JDB effect and some think Toddy doesn't drive the refs.

When was the last time we won a count 10-5?

Took a bit, but the last time we won a count 10-5 was 1948

Edit: that's probably false, but I really can't be arsed going back through 70 years worth of games looking at penalty counts

 

[HoldenV8]

If a penalty is given after the siren then they have to play on till the ball is dead. - i.e. tackle completed or ball goes out of play

They're supposed to. But I've also seen them call halftime or full time this year when the ball is still in play.

 

[The better Robbo]

In the first few minutes Vaughan plays the ball, mcinnes grubbers in goal, Vaughn makes the tackle. From that point we were under the pump. How does every ref and video ref miss that. It got sent to the bunker but they all missed it.
We had a few dud calls against us! We really missed AFB and turbo, lacked a bit of X factor

 

[Pittwater Legend]

Listen, I’ve had a few beers. Are you trying to wind me up her. If so get ****ed. We were wooden spoon contenders last year...

Wake up and smell the roses...

This post gave me a good laugh last night. Still having a little chuckle now