Pre-Game Manly V Sharks [Round 10, 2025]

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11 May 2025 04:05 PM


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Hey well done to Seibold. Good selections. Smart move having Jake come back and starting at prop. That is his best and (I think) only position. Jazz absolutely owned that #13 against Penrith so good to see he is rewarded with same position. Same with Simpkin. So good to have Saaby back as he is unquestionably one of the big X factors in the team. And I don't actually mind Waddell on the bench. Apart from a couple of indiscretions I thought he played strong against the Panthers. Manly by +13 at a packed Brookvale.
 
Nope I think we need Jake's defence up front first 20min. Suffocate the gummies and then hit them with Bullemore, Brown and even Tommy T on for Burbo.
Fair enough. Although we didn't seem to miss Jake against penrith. 14 nil up early. But I get what your saying Jake doesn't really bring any impact of the bench. But I think we'd be better off starting fast and mobile first 20. Jake can grind 20-60 and bully back last 20 for impact
 
You’d have to be blind not to see the change to the team dynamic in the last game.

So many here want to blame the coach , bet he gets little credit for this.
So how long did it take for the coach to realize jake is best at Prop and the 9 belongs to Simpkin ?
Who do we blame for these long and overdue changes ?
Who is this Blind Manly person that failed to see what was best for our team ?

Not the coach because some on here think that Seibold is not accountable for his teams selections or performance
What is he accountable for then ?
The answer seems to be
F... ALL
 
Still think we need another big body on the bench tho. Ailoi and Lodge hopefully not far away, and Sipley back in rd 13.
I don't think Sipley is up to 1st anymore. The couple games he had were not good. Maybe carrying injury but he seemed gassed after 10min.
 
I like the change but after thinking about it overnight, what do we like about Jake moving to prop? I know that a positive is that he is no longer playing lock, and Jazz will arguably do a better job, but do we even want him as prop? When we talk about props we want, we talk about aggressive, fast, mobile, young and hungry - Jake is none of these. Why do we think he will perform well at 8?
 
Jake is out glue up the middle in defence. He starts to struggle and give away penalties when he is fatigued. He did a good job playing shorter stints in the front row in origin last year and hopefully that’s how Seibs utilises him from here on in.
 
When we talk about props we want, we talk about aggressive, fast, mobile, young and hungry
Young? Why young? Mitch Barnett aint young! Raiders Papalii and Tapine aren't kids...

Yes you definitely want energy, but as I recall Jake is the incumbent SOO prop and I don't recall his performance being criticised (just his small minutes).

If he plays limited minutes (30 odd in SOO, so in NRL should manage 40-50) I can't see why he wouldn't be effective.
 
We need to complete our sets win field position and tire those big sharks forwards.Turbo and the backs will do the rest.Of course the refs will punish any tackles that make contact with the head so we need to be disciplined in this area and not have players put in the bin. we can win this .
 
I like the change but after thinking about it overnight, what do we like about Jake moving to prop? I know that a positive is that he is no longer playing lock, and Jazz will arguably do a better job, but do we even want him as prop? When we talk about props we want, we talk about aggressive, fast, mobile, young and hungry - Jake is none of these. Why do we think he will perform well at 8?
There are many questions around Jake's future that will need to be asked and answered. However there is no doubt in my mind that he can still provide enormous value in defence in that critical first quarter of the game. That's where I think a team establishes or looses it's ascendency for the rest of the game.
 

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