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Manly V Souths [Round 18, 2025]


MATCH DAY


Sunday 06 July 2025.

Venue:.... 4 Pines Park, Brookvale, NSW

Gates Open:.... TBA.

Jersey Flegg Cup Kick Off Time:.... Manly-Warringah Sea Eagles V Saint George Illawarra Dragons: 12:00pm.

NSW Cup Kick Off Time:
.... Manly-Warringah Sea Eagles V Saint George Illawarra Dragons: 1:45pm.

NRL Kick Off Time:
.... Manly-Warringah Sea Eagles V South Sydney Rabbitohs: 4:05pm.


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Manly-Warringah Sea Eagles

Team List etc. will be updated on Tuesday Afternoon (01/07/25)

01. Lehi Hopoate
02. Reuben Garrick
03. Tolutau Koula
04. Tom Trbojevic
05. Jason Saab
06. Luke Brooks
07. Daly Cherry-Evans (C)

08. Matthew Lodge
09. Lachlan Croker / Jake Simpkin
10. Siosiua Taukei'aho
11. Corey Waddell
12. Ben Trbojevic
13. Jake Trbojevic / Jazz Tevaga

14. Jake Simpkin / Lachlan Croker
15. Jazz Tevaga / Jake Trbojevic
16. Ethan Bullemor
17. Toafofoa Sipley


Replacement:

18. Tommy Talau.



Reserves:

19. Clayton Faulalo
20. Michael Chee Kam
21. Chris Patolo
22. Joey Walsh
23. Aaron Schoupp
24. Raymond Tuaimalo Vaega
25. Dean Matterson
26. Aitasi James
27. Caleb Navale - Development Player
28. D’Jazirhae ‘Mia’ Pua'avase - Development Player
29. Simione Laiafi - Development Player
30. Zaidas Muagututia - Development Player.



Out:

TBA.



Available But Not Selected:
  • TBA.
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From the Manly Sea Eagles website, here is the ' Injury Update: Taniela Paseka' released on Tuesday, 25 March 2025:

Sea Eagles prop Taniela Paseka has undergone surgery to repair a ruptured Achilles tendon.

The 27-year-old suffered the injury midway through the first half of the Round 3 victory over the Raiders.


Taniela is aiming to be available to play in Round 25 this season following a 16–20-week recovery period.



From the 'NRL 2025, Injuries, Suspension Return Dates, Casualty Ward and Key Information for the 2025 NRL Telstra Premiership Season' web page, Here is the Latest NRL Injured or Unavailable Update:

* * * (Updated: Friday, 27 June 2025) * * *

Sea Eagles forward, Nathan Brown suffered a biceps issue and failed to finish the Round 17 clash against the Tigers at 4 Pines Park.

Coach Anthony Seibold said he would need scans to confirm the injury.

Manly forward
Haumole Olakau'atu will be sidelined for up to six weeks after dislocating his shoulder in the act of reaching out to score a try in the Round 15 loss to the Titans.

Olakau'atu underwent scans and the Sea Eagles reported in a medical update that the Origin second-rower he would be sidelined for four-to-six weeks.

Fellow Sea Eagles
Lachlan Croker (concussion) and Tommy Talau (hamstring) missed Friday's Round 17 game against Wests Tigers.

Manly Sea Eagles
  • Nathan Brown(Biceps, TBC)
  • Tommy Talau (Hamstring, TBC)
  • Lachlan Croker (Concussion, Round 18)
  • Haumole Olakau'atu (Shoulder, Round 20-21)
  • Josh Aloiai (Shoulder, TBC)
  • Taniela Paseka (Achilles, Round 26)


Also, from the Official NRL Casualty Ward & Injury Information, Manly hub page, there are slight variations to the information regarding the unavailable or injured players and their return periods:
  • Lachlan Croker (Concussion, Round 18)
  • Haumole Olakau'atu (Shoulder, Round 21)
  • Taniela Paseka (Achilles, Round 25)
  • Josh Aloiai (Shoulder, TBC)
  • Nathan (Biceps, TBC)
  • Tommy Talau (Hamstring, TBC)

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Might be able to get something worthwhile going with Lodge and T K O starting then Bully and Sipps off the bench .
Lodge ideally still to up his game stamina level a bit but this combo ongoing again , probably the way to go
Navale for Brown maybe the only suitable option at this stage , not sure how to accommodate Talau with Simpkin quite likely on the bench as well and Garrick and Saab retained as wingers
May be able to use Jazz as a utility forward again and not include Navale with Talau instead but will just have to wait for the perceived priorities i guess .
 
On present indications, depending on whether we get TDS early:

1. Hoppa
2. Saab
3. Koula
4. Turbo
5. Garrick
6. Brooks
7. D€E
8. Lodge
9. Simpkin
10. TKO
11. Waddell
12. Burbo
13. Jake
14. TDS
15. Bullemor
16. Tevaga
17. Sipley

Might end up being 9. Croker / 14. TDS, but I can't imagine them putting Croker straight back in, or dropping Simpkin. TDS may spend a week in NSW Cup too.

Bit rough on Talau. If he doesn't get injured prior to the game, he probably wouldn't have been dropped this week.
 
On present indications, depending on whether we get TDS early:

1. Hoppa
2. Saab
3. Koula
4. Turbo
5. Garrick
6. Brooks
7. D€E
8. Lodge
9. Simpkin
10. TKO
11. Waddell
12. Burbo
13. Jake
14. TDS
15. Bullemor
16. Tevaga
17. Sipley

Might end up being 9. Croker / 14. TDS, but I can't imagine them putting Croker straight back in, or dropping Simpkin. TDS may spend a week in NSW Cup too.

Bit rough on Talau. If he doesn't get injured prior to the game, he probably wouldn't have been dropped this week.
Talau‘s career at Manly is following a similar path to his Tigers. Plenty of promise but plenty of injuries
 
Am I wrong in thinking that Bennett absolutely owns Seibold? Has Seibold ever beaten him?
 
We aint getting the spoon even if we lose this.

But important to keep us in the hunt for the 8.
Just furthermore on this, and for anyone legitimately concerned about winning the spoon, it is not a concern.

We are on 18 points with 10 rounds and 9 matches to go. The Titans are in last place with 12 points also with 9 games to play (plus 1 bye).

So lets say worst case scenario and we lose all 9 games, which would, despite a tougher run home, be a dramatic fall from grace considering we have won 47% of our games thus far. That would still mean the Titans would have to win 3 (and make up just over 180 PD) or more likely 4 games out of their remaining 9. This is essentially doubling their current win rate.

Now, the above is unlikely as it is, but say we don’t win another game and the Titans have a revival.

We are also 4 points clear of the Knights, Tigers, Eels and Rabbitohs., so you would need all of those teams most likely to make up 6 points on us (4 may be enough with PD). Now Knights and Rabbitohs have two byes each so a little easier but the fact remains still we are talking 4 clubs that in the last 5 rounds have won 3 of 18 matches. So a 16% win ratio that would need to increase evenly to over 30%

And this is not to mention those teams will play each other and cannibalize each others point scoring potential.

Essentially, the form of the entire comp would have to almost completely flip for us to win the spoon. It isn’t happening.
 
Just furthermore on this, and for anyone legitimately concerned about winning the spoon, it is not a concern.

We are on 18 points with 10 rounds and 9 matches to go. The Titans are in last place with 12 points also with 9 games to play (plus 1 bye).

So lets say worst case scenario and we lose all 9 games, which would, despite a tougher run home, be a dramatic fall from grace considering we have won 47% of our games thus far. That would still mean the Titans would have to win 3 (and make up just over 180 PD) or more likely 4 games out of their remaining 9. This is essentially doubling their current win rate.

Now, the above is unlikely as it is, but say we don’t win another game and the Titans have a revival.

We are also 4 points clear of the Knights, Tigers, Eels and Rabbitohs., so you would need all of those teams most likely to make up 6 points on us (4 may be enough with PD). Now Knights and Rabbitohs have two byes each so a little easier but the fact remains still we are talking 4 clubs that in the last 5 rounds have won 3 of 18 matches. So a 16% win ratio that would need to increase evenly to over 30%

And this is not to mention those teams will play each other and cannibalize each others point scoring potential.

Essentially, the form of the entire comp would have to almost completely flip for us to win the spoon. It isn’t happening.
Also, the record number of wins for a last place team was the Tigers last year with 6 wins.

We already have 7 wins
 
Just furthermore on this, and for anyone legitimately concerned about winning the spoon, it is not a concern.

We are on 18 points with 10 rounds and 9 matches to go. The Titans are in last place with 12 points also with 9 games to play (plus 1 bye).

So lets say worst case scenario and we lose all 9 games, which would, despite a tougher run home, be a dramatic fall from grace considering we have won 47% of our games thus far. That would still mean the Titans would have to win 3 (and make up just over 180 PD) or more likely 4 games out of their remaining 9. This is essentially doubling their current win rate.

Now, the above is unlikely as it is, but say we don’t win another game and the Titans have a revival.

We are also 4 points clear of the Knights, Tigers, Eels and Rabbitohs., so you would need all of those teams most likely to make up 6 points on us (4 may be enough with PD). Now Knights and Rabbitohs have two byes each so a little easier but the fact remains still we are talking 4 clubs that in the last 5 rounds have won 3 of 18 matches. So a 16% win ratio that would need to increase evenly to over 30%

And this is not to mention those teams will play each other and cannibalize each others point scoring potential.

Essentially, the form of the entire comp would have to almost completely flip for us to win the spoon. It isn’t happening.
Spot on Disco

Incidentally the bookies have us at 25/1 to be in the bottom 4

Given half of the posters on here seem think we are a bottom 4 team that's got to be appealing to some
 
I think our last win secured this and I think we’ll beat the Bunnies also , so I’d agree @Disco , zero chance.

But I still think we’ll be around the 10th -14th , which given how positive I felt after the first few games is a real disappointment.
 

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