[Resurrected] Paul Kent makes sense

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Third party agreements are hard to police and easy to rort, writes Paul Kent
PAUL KENT, The Daily Telegraph
December 1, 2017 10:24pm
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JAMES Maloney spoke with the blunt candour he is famous for but, with each syllable, the dollars fell away.

This was some weeks back. Matt Moylan had signed with Cronulla and everybody was waiting for Maloney to confirm his trade to Penrith. Maloney turned up to speak as his part of the Australian camp.

Asked why the holdup on announcing he was going to Penrith, he took a machete to the deal.

“I think they’re just trying to pass a third party or something. The contract’s not quite sorted yet, so when it is I can sign on that line,” Maloney said.

The money fell at his feet like dry leaves. Maloney was waiting for the $200,000 Keno sponsorship to switch from Moylan to him.

Maloney is an ambassador and spokesman for the rights of the Rugby League Players Association and so clearly knows the entitlements of players. He might need a little brushing up on what they’re not entitled to, though.
Clubs are not allowed to organise third party sponsorships, as Maloney was waiting on Penrith to do.
This is exactly what is wrong with third party deals. Small bells chimed inside NRL headquarters as it seemed there was indirect proof that some third party deals are club driven, over and above the salary cap, rather than player driven. If Keno was truly interested in Moylan, not the Panthers, why didn’t the sponsorship follow him to Cronulla instead of staying at Penrith?

Third parties have become such a river of gold that clubs are now guiding prospective sponsors towards sponsoring players instead of clubs.

Maloney got caught obeying that old notion that goes something like if everybody is on the secret then it is really no secret at all, and so he spoke openly and too honestly.

Penrith has yet to lodge the contract but a resolution of sorts was reached last week when the Panthers privately told the NRL it won’t proceed with the sponsorship when the contract is lodged.

Yet no word of an investigation into the Moylan-Keno deal.

To create room in the cap for Maloney, Penrith released Leilani Latu on Thursday. “He has been tremendous for our club and his release from Panthers is purely a salary cap management decision,” football boss Phil Gould said.
Maloney’s honesty is the great truth in the NRL, though. Third party sponsorships are difficult to police and easy to rort. They were originally brought in because clubs argued that legitimate sponsors and therefore legitimate money was being kept away from the game because of the code’s laws against personal sponsors.

The argument grew when the NRL knocked back St George Bank’s approach to personally sponsor Trent Barrett. The bank was the Dragons major sponsor at the time.

NRL chief executive Todd Greenberg remains satisfied with their value. He argues with some merit that he does not want to prevent players earning money outside the game.

A lot has changed since the bank went after Barrett. The salary cap is almost triple. The money players command in third parties is a fraction of what they earn in contract money.

The money is big enough to be worth the risk but not big enough to make a difference. So, are the third parties worth the ills they create?

They destroy any notion the salary cap levels the competition. Some clubs have many more third party deals than others, making the cap redundant.

They encourage cheating, a public disaster that costs the game millions when teams are caught.

In August the last brief on 11 player managers alleged to have helped Parramatta cheat the salary cap was lodged at NRL headquarters. Evidence on one manager runs to more than 900 pages. Thousands of pages of evidence have been accumulated against all 11. Emails and text messages and deals.
The briefs have sat in at NRL headquarters. It is not the NRL’s job to prosecute. That’s for the Rugby League Accredited Player Agent Scheme but it was waiting for financial protection from the NRL.

When Melbourne got busted in 2010, two of the three managers took it to court and it ran to more than $400,000 before the managers finally lost and had to pay costs. The committee has no financial protection so asked the ARL Commission to indemnify them against possible legal action before pursuing action.

This goes to the heart of the game’s problems; as the salary cap seeks to level the spending, the third party payments bend them out of shape again.

Yet for months the briefs against managers have sat in at NRL headquarters, making many wonder why.

Some time ago a whisper went around that several managers who should not even bother turning up to defend themselves, such is the weight of evidence against them, are preparing to fight dirty.

If they get called in to tell their secrets of what happened at Parramatta, they will tell all their secrets.

Others clubs, other officials … all the secrets. Plenty got nervous.

Such an investigation, thorough and proper, might have the effect of a royal commission. A cleansing, an opportunity to begin again. But who is game to go down the rabbit hole?

Ten days ago the ARL Commission discussed indemnifying the committee. It would be easy to deny the agents scheme their indemnity to prevent potential heartache.

They decided the evidence was strong enough to support sanctions against several managers and action will proceed.

And so we wait.
 
It's like HGH and steroids in baseball back in the 1990's.
Everybody knew everybody was doing it but the league and owners ( Inc George Bush jnr) liked the money the fans brought to them.
 
I am not sure of all that Maloney said,but if he only referenced the word "they're",legally who can that be claimed as referring to?It could mean his agent,it doesn't necessarily mean the "club".I am not saying that is what he meant but legally he could claim that and who can prove otherwise?Like I said I have not seen his whole interview and not interested enough to check it....
 
The NRL needs to pick a date, 12 months away where TPA's end for good.

If players can't work with the money available in the salary cap then they can piss off, but should not be allowed to return for two years.
 
No
Real
Leadership

This is the kind of issue that decent governing bodies address and absorb some short term pain for a long term gain.
It won't change until we get some ultra rich person decide they want to win every premiership and TPA every decent player and every decent junior ( sort of like the Beacon Hill thing) but at "arms length" from the club and the no real leadership will Have to be reactionary.
The real issue for the NRL is they are afraid of having to use more of THEIR money to pay players, the more dodgy tpa's the less pressure on the NRL to cough up any extra cash. It's a case of follow the money.
 
It won't change until we get some ultra rich person decide they want to win every premiership and TPA every decent player and every decent junior ( sort of like the Beacon Hill thing) but at "arms length" from the club and the no real leadership will Have to be reactionary.

Oh, you mean like Brisbane's Thoroughbred's club who basically bankroll most of (if not all) the Donkey's TPA's even though they are supposed to be separate from the club....The NRL have known about that for years and have never done SFA about it.

Or the Chooks with Uncle Nick's brown paper bag TPA's mostly from his own companies or from his millionaire friends?

The way they are under Greenturd, only time the NRL would ever do anything about the situation is if Manly were involved. Do you think Maloney's comments would have been ignored if it was us trying to sign him? That bald headed twat would have called for just about a Royal Commission to sort us out and in the end we'd be lucky to be playing for competition points before 2020.
 
I'd be loving TPA's if we could actually arrange some.

He does make some good points about the investigation into the player managers though. Todd has the broom out and ready......he'll shortly be in the market for a bigger rug though at this rate
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Maybe he can get himself a nice TPA from Roger Ramsheet's genuine Fakari Rug Warehouse
 
I don’t have a problem with them.

If the players are good enough and the club smart enough, good luck to them.
 
I need to add the following two words to the title of this thread / blog : FOR ONCE

what rock has Kent been hiding under - we the sausage roll eaters have known this for years
Guys Kent makes sense all the time. He is probably the best journo going around. Watching him on 360 for years now, i value his opinion a lot. He has known about this rort for years, no doubt he would know a hell of a lot more than anyone on this forum re rorts, but you must remember - he is rocking the boat by writing these articles. The NRL dont like him doing this. And he cant always write bad news pieces, so these ones are sparse
 
Damned if they do and damned if they don’t.

They can’t stop players earning money outside of the system and I don’t have an issue with this.

BUT, the issue I have is the funnelling of sponsorship dollars into areas that can be used as TPA’s and then SUPPORTED BY THE CLUBS.

You can be sure the Thoroughbreds don’t lack for , Corporate Boxes, Corporate Functions , trips to away games, seating to State of Origin, Grand Final
Seats.

Apart from not being mentioned as a Corporate sponsor they would do very very well thank you.

Of course, at arms length , and nothing to do with the Donkeys......right!!!

If TPA’s are for simple things like a player appearing in an advertisement for a car dealer and that’s all the dealer gets then no drama HOWEVER we know the truth is totally different.
 
No
Real
Leadership
The real issue for the NRL is they are afraid of having to use more of THEIR money to pay players, the more dodgy tpa's the less pressure on the NRL to cough up any extra cash. It's a case of follow the money.

It's also the problem of a sporting organisation which is meant to be facilitating and promoting a competition having its success judged by revenue. It is in the interest of the management team to appear to be making financial gains to point to as success. Meanwhile, the code is dying from a lack of grass routes participation, inequality between the teams, the product being controlled by the media, diabolical refereeing and policies which turn their back on local traditional fan bases.
 
Oh, you mean like Brisbane's Thoroughbred's club who basically bankroll most of (if not all) the Donkey's TPA's even though they are supposed to be separate from the club....The NRL have known about that for years and have never done SFA about it.

Or the Chooks with Uncle Nick's brown paper bag TPA's mostly from his own companies or from his millionaire friends?

The way they are under Greenturd, only time the NRL would ever do anything about the situation is if Manly were involved. Do you think Maloney's comments would have been ignored if it was us trying to sign him? That bald headed twat would have called for just about a Royal Commission to sort us out and in the end we'd be lucky to be playing for competition points before 2020.

Exactly, so we are suppose to believe that the Thoroughbreds for example, never get a call form the Broncos saying we have just signed a player and we need $300k to top him up. FFS how else would it occur???...
 
It is quite simple, and has been put foward as an idea previously.

Any and all salares, TPA's, boats, cars, new kitchens, etc get paid/given to all players straight from the NRL.
If Volvo want to sponsor DCE, they supply him a car, with the conduit through the NRL, not the club.
Any $ found to be paid to players accounts that have not been paid via the NRL are automatically deemed illegal.

This doesn't stop players getting extra TPA's, it just means the NRL must be involved and therefore aware of the process.
 
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