Sack Seibold Immediately

[SeaEagleRock8]

Seibold should be allowed 2026 to prove himself because next year is the truly enormous change in the club, the first time without DCE in ten years. DCE affected our golden generation to the point where there was nothing to follow. His position at the centre of our team and as sometime captain cannot be underestimated in establishing and maintaining the culture of the place.

Next year Seibold has an entirely different landscape to work with: no DCE and more money available.

He understands the club, the culture, and the personnel much more than he would have initially and, while there really are no other options, he should be given this chance.

Agree. Assuming Manly finishes off the year with tough, spirited footy.

 

[SeaEagle007]

Seibold should be allowed 2026 to prove himself because next year is the truly enormous change in the club, the first time without DCE in ten years. DCE affected our golden generation to the point where there was nothing to follow. His position at the centre of our team and as sometime captain cannot be underestimated in establishing and maintaining the culture of the place.

Next year Seibold has an entirely different landscape to work with: no DCE and more money available.

He understands the club, the culture, and the personnel much more than he would have initially and, while there really are no other options, he should be given this chance.

Wow your a sucker for punishment

 

[SeaEagleRock8]

Seibold should be allowed 2026 to prove himself because next year is the truly enormous change in the club, the first time without DCE in ten years. DCE affected our golden generation to the point where there was nothing to follow. His position at the centre of our team and as sometime captain cannot be underestimated in establishing and maintaining the culture of the place.

Next year Seibold has an entirely different landscape to work with: no DCE and more money available.

He understands the club, the culture, and the personnel much more than he would have initially and, while there really are no other options, he should be given this chance.

Nicely reasoned, thank you! Seib's has also overseen the introduction to the club of a number of promising younger players and next year we're likely to see some of them pushing into NRL.

 

[Cliffycomeback]

Seibold should be allowed 2026 to prove himself because next year is the truly enormous change in the club, the first time without DCE in ten years. DCE affected our golden generation to the point where there was nothing to follow. His position at the centre of our team and as sometime captain cannot be underestimated in establishing and maintaining the culture of the place.

Next year Seibold has an entirely different landscape to work with: no DCE and more money available.

He understands the club, the culture, and the personnel much more than he would have initially and, while there really are no other options, he should be given this chance.

I'm not so certain he gets to go again if we miss the finals. His budget recruiting has been way off the mark in several areas since he took over. Retention wise we probably should have found a way to keep Samuela Fainu and Kao Weekes. The best clubs are ruthless and just get things done irrespective of player managers etc. Look at the Storm and Panthers, they have depth in every position. We currently have two backrowers in our top 30.

Seibs has erred when it comes to signing those lower tier guys like Jaemen Salmon, Zak Hosking, Klese Haas, Josiah Pahulu etc. If he can't get this right, why should he be trusted with the bigger signings? The best way to know what kind of money management skills a person has is to watch what they do with the loose change.

If he gets us to the finals he earns the right to go again.

 

[Terry Zarsoff]

Yes I think we have to persevere with Seibold.

Any Manly coach in recent times would have had a **** sandwich on their plate. Just ask Tooves, Des or Seibold:

1. DCE running the club;
2. Schuster’s manager sharing management duties with DCE;
3. Scott Penn thinking he is running the club (and making a meal of it);
4. The J-T-Burbo family thinking they run the club;
5. The Fulton kids temporarily gifted the club, courtesy of dad; and
5. The Fainu family previously thinking they ran the club.

However, Tony Mestrov is a good marketing man. The financial bottom line looks pretty good. The new sports business academy looks like a good initiative.

Not sure just yet if he is a good all-round CEO. The most recent DCE saga left him with egg on his face.

A lot there to deal with.

Edit: in saying all that, there are some green shoots appearing. The CoS and the BFS are great additions to the club and our home ground.

As mentioned, the new sports business academy is a great initiative, which hopefully bears some strategic fruit (from Manly’s perspective) in years to come. Well done to Tony Mestrov and co. on that front.

The LC seems to be doing well. The mergers with DY Bowls and the confirmed merger with the Chatswood Club are good initiatives. The latter in particular gives Manly (presumably) a stake in some very valuable real estate.

 

[47MVEagle]

It was just my less than subtle dig at those who defend the coach on the basis there are no viable alternatives, while continually complaining about the owner where the exact same situation applies, even more so. Your point is exactly right. The owner is here to stay, so what’s the point in continually complaining about it.

LOL WAT 😂😂😂

You’re seriously comparing asking who you would replace Seibold with from a very limited pool of NRL coaches, to asking who you would replace the owner of the club with from a HUGE pool of unknown millionaires/billionaires spread across the world?

That has to be one of the most ridiculous comparisons I’ve ever encountered 😂

I know you think you’ve made some sort of point but that’s just plain sToOPid 😂

 

[Mark from Brisbane]

There’s buyers already but the Penn’s don’t want to sell, as I have intimated on here they are very probably now getting a pretty good return on investment , so from a purely “ return on investment “ proposition it’s a nice little earner.

 

[Mark from Brisbane]

Yes I think we have to persevere with Seibold.

Any Manly coach in recent times would have had a **** sandwich on their plate. Just ask Tooves, Des or Seibold:

1. DCE running the club;
2. Schuster’s manager sharing management duties with DCE;
3. Scott Penn thinking he is running the club (and making a meal of it);
4. The J-T-Burbo family thinking they run the club;
5. The Fulton kids temporarily gifted the club, courtesy of dad; and
5. The Fainu family previously thinking they ran the club.

However, Tony Mestrov is a good marketing man. The financial bottom line looks pretty good. The new sports business academy looks like a good initiative.

Not sure just yet if he is a good all-round CEO. The most recent DCE saga left him with egg on his face.

A lot there to deal with.

Edit: in saying all that, there are some green shoots appearing. The CoS and the BFS are great additions to the club and our home ground.

As mentioned, the new sports business academy is a great initiative, which hopefully bears some strategic fruit (from Manly’s perspective) in years to come. Well done to Tony Mestrov and co. on that front.

The LC seems to be doing well. The mergers with DY Bowls and the confirmed merger with the Chatswood Club are good initiatives. The latter in particular gives Manly (presumably) a stake in some very valuable real estate.

Good points all, but I think the writing is on the wall for Seibold, which means the coaching circus will continue ( they are the greatest scapegoats after all ).

I see the latest from Fox Sports is a move to bring Ballin back , that’ll make the ASC froth with joy ( but wonder has Fox actually asked Ballin would he return to Sydney ??).

 

[Heckenberg]

Yep

As I have continually banged on about , when you have an owner who is now making a fair return on investment ( complete supposition by me ) based on,

A) salary cap pays all player wages (but as we know it’s whats spent otherwise that gets the guns ).
B) football department grant covers 5 million in costs , the fact that some might spend twice or three times that doesn’t mean we do ( I’m sure we don’t ),
C) so the owners costs are covered leaving them ticket sales , memberships , merchandise & hospitality to make money out of , and in that front the Penn’s are doing very nicely ( complete supposition by me but I wouldn’t be far off ).

So riddle me this , it’s the fans who crave success , the owner is happy to have a competitive team, making the finals is great but once they do that the NRL own the funds generated , so purely on a ROI as long as they are buying more memberships , and filling the venue Penn is rubbing his hands together, so why would Penn want to top up everything and say add another 10 million into the kitty to create more success ???

The answer is , he doesn’t.

So matters **** all if we do get the greatest young coach , without the extra investment nothing will change.

Bloke should take some ****ing pride in owning this great club and if he only cares to be invited to the party he should onsell it to someone that wants to win. Sick of how mediocre we have become since his takeover.

 

[jbb/james]

Coaches make players
Players make coaches
Both are true

Manly has a little bit of coach killer in its DNA . Love Des or hate him, it was like everyone took one step back except for Des when the they were looking for volunteers to slaughter for Rainbow gate
Onya own, onya own, onya own

Anyway
Whatever you want to align yourself too. I like the idea of seibs to coach for a couple more years, groom a successor coach with the squad
Also , ensure he is very clear on what is meant by Groom, maybe have HR sit in

But Manly need to invest in both seibs and the future as assistant ASAP.
Build there knowledge, and confidence. Ensure the hand over of culture is smooth.Get a very clear succession plan, get the players on board with the succession. Build careers together

Then gracefully make the change and keep seibs as head of footy
He seems quite well suited to a footy club and maybe he could still be a very big asset in future.

While his youth policy is a couple of years too early for some supporters, being many are a bit young and away off, when a young crop emerges together it can be a mighty boost to the squad and the cap management. Key spine positions and forwards seem to be tagets. If they bring the culture as well as the experience

There is a kittle bit of “this **** might all come together” in a few years

I dont think he loves the old guys its just that our team just keeps buckling and he is looking to instill better leadership into the squad as we are weak and have little coin

Harden up and we might be able to gamble with more youth

 

[madmax]

Good points all, but I think the writing is on the wall for Seibold, which means the coaching circus will continue ( they are the greatest scapegoats after all ).

I see the latest from Fox Sports is a move to bring Ballin back , that’ll make the ASC froth with joy ( but wonder has Fox actually asked Ballin would he return to Sydney ??).

Apparently there are a number of ex premiership winning players pushing for Ballin to take over. Also a number of current players on the bandwagon! I think Siebold is aware of the situation, hence his subtle hint about moving in to a directorate role?? Not so bad as I think he’d make a good Head of Football! He seems to have many ideas moving forward just not the cattle or dollars! Just my thoughts….