Seibold presser ..

[XV-1]

Thank you.

And yes, I saw the way the dogs defended in the second half against the raiders. Very impressive, and we are nowhere near that.

We were the complete opposite. Got back into the game at 14 all with 20 to go.
Brooks bombs that certain try to put us ahead 20 - 14.
Then we let 3 tries in with pathetic D.

 

[Carl]

We were the complete opposite. Got back into the game at 14 all with 20 to go.
Brooks bombs that certain try to put us ahead 20 - 14.
Then we let 3 tries in with pathetic D.

I agree, the end of game defense was pathetic.

But I think attack let us down more in the first 40 than defense. If our defense hadn't been decent, we would have been down more than 14.

 

[Brookie1973]

I agree in part. However, the coach still plays a very big part in a teams overall performance and the habits they display on a regular basis. Look at what Wayne is doing at the Bunnies with a huge injury list and the same squad as last season.

Listen to his press conference last week when he had a bunch of fill ins playing. He didn't make any "we had a free shot at the stumps" like comments. Instead he suggested that if the players wanted to be paid like first graders then they needed to perform like first graders. He dropped Tatola to reserve grade and the Bunnies responded this week.

Des had no qualms dropping Fifita and again the players responded.

Spoon is a nothing changes no where man coach. Scarred and scared.

That “free throw at the stumps” comment still pisses me off. Fancy a head coach of any professional sport anywhere in the world basically admitting they don’t have a chance. Even if you think it, why verbalise it, other than to take the pressure off himself and avoid any accountability. And we wonder why the players are comfortable with mediocrity and lack a killer instinct. That was the moment I knew we were in deep poo poo with Seibold.

 

[Sea Eagle 4 Life]

Apologies for that.

I was just trying to make my point sarcastically that we are a long way off in our D. That the dogs is so much better than us is embarrassing.
This can only be attributed to the coach and Mestrov in our recruitment.

Our defence line-speed is non-existent.

 

[BOZO]

I agree in part. However, the coach still plays a very big part in a teams overall performance and the habits they display on a regular basis. Look at what Wayne is doing at the Bunnies with a huge injury list and the same squad as last season.

Listen to his press conference last week when he had a bunch of fill ins playing. He didn't make any "we had a free shot at the stumps" like comments. Instead he suggested that if the players wanted to be paid like first graders then they needed to perform like first graders. He dropped Tatola to reserve grade and the Bunnies responded this week.

Des had no qualms dropping Fifita and again the players responded.

Spoon is a nothing changes no where man coach. Scarred and scared.

The difference is highlighted in your posts feathered and the choices we all make define us and our circumstances
All management / Head coaches are accountable for their teams out come
They are responsible for lifting their team above adversity ,ensuring the team achieves its goals and taking responsibility for both success and failures

As our Feathered friend @maxta has passionately said to me
Quote
In a Big Game and front of our full house of passionate manly fans we should come come ready to eat the opposition like raw meat
End Quote
So true and Thank you @maxta

But instead we came out passively eating a McDonalds Happy meal
Served by our Happy Meal Mentor Seibold

We need another Manly Mentor that is capable of turning our weak custard club culture
In to the Hard and Resolute Winning Manly Way Culture
Because our current Mentor we have does not have the Ability to set our High Manly Standards

 

[BOZO]

I agree in part. However, the coach still plays a very big part in a teams overall performance and the habits they display on a regular basis. Look at what Wayne is doing at the Bunnies with a huge injury list and the same squad as last season.

Listen to his press conference last week when he had a bunch of fill ins playing. He didn't make any "we had a free shot at the stumps" like comments. Instead he suggested that if the players wanted to be paid like first graders then they needed to perform like first graders. He dropped Tatola to reserve grade and the Bunnies responded this week.

Des had no qualms dropping Fifita and again the players responded.

Spoon is a nothing changes no where man coach. Scarred and scared.

The difference is highlighted in your posts feathered friend as the choices we all make define us and our circumstances
All management / Head coaches are accountable for their teams out come
They are responsible for lifting their team above adversity ,ensuring the team achieves its goals and taking responsibility for both success and failures

As our Feathered friend @maxta has passionately said to me
Quote
In a Big Game and front of our full house of passionate manly fans we should run out ready to eat the opposition like raw meat
End Quote
So true and Thank you @maxta

But instead we came out passively eating a McDonalds Happy meal
Served by our Happy Meal Mentor Seibold

We need another Manly Mentor that is capable of turning our weak custard club culture
In to the Hard and Resolute Winning Manly Way Culture
Because our current Mentor does not have the Ability to set our High Manly Way Standards

 

[maxta]

The difference is highlighted in your posts feathered friend as the choices we all make define us and our circumstances
All management / Head coaches are accountable for their teams out come
They are responsible for lifting their team above adversity ,ensuring the team achieves its goals and taking responsibility for both success and failures

As our Feathered friend @maxta has passionately said to me
Quote
In a Big Game and front of our full house of passionate manly fans we should run out ready to eat the opposition like raw meat
End Quote
So true and Thank you @maxta

But instead we came out passively eating a McDonalds Happy meal
Served by our Happy Meal Mentor Seibold

We need another Manly Mentor that is capable of turning our weak custard club culture
In to the Hard and Resolute Winning Manly Way Culture
Because our current Mentor does not have the Ability to set our High Manly Way Standards

As far as Seibold coaching I felt at times I have seen some fancy and pretty football....but where is the aggression....when the going gets tough, Manly seem to slink away like they are not willing to get down and dirty on the physical side of things, so basically when a team comes out to play a hard, tough game, they generally get over Manly by winning the war of attrition and these post game presser interviews of "we tried hard....I thought we had a real go" ect is becoming frustrating to watch....where's the accountability ??
To fight back to 14 all mid 2nd half and then lose by 16 points in front of a packed home crowd is inexcusable....and I personally felt Sharks were nothing flash and Manly were simply very flat.
I think if Seibold want to talk about 'the Manly Way' and is trying to make a winning culture, there needs to be an immediate change in accepting poor performances and the players need to be challenged to 'raise the bar" and lift the standards, as for right now they are being told some sub standard efforts are good enough....well if you had Tooves in the sheds, I feel he would have a completely different opinion and there would be some much deserved fires lit under these players!

 

[madmax]

Don’t forget Garrick has a locked in centre spot for life. The problem is Seibold has no stature as a coach, that is why he just defers to the senior players. May as well not have a coach.

Yawn zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

 

[madmax]

Totally agree, but plenty on here are convinced Seibold is not the problem, despite all the evidence to the contrary. Bellamy was going ape **** in the box when the storm were up by 50 against wests, because it looked like some of the players were taking things a bit casually. By contrast, Seibolds blank face has never changed in the coaches box once that I’ve seen in his total time at the club, apart from a self satisfied smile when Tom has done something. Bennett has always been implacable, but you just know the players know who’s boss behind closed doors.

What evidence to the contrary? Give it a break mate with your Siebold can’t coach $hit.

 

[SeaEagleRock8]

What evidence to the contrary? Give it a break mate with your Siebold can’t coach $hit.

The coaching wasn't going too bad in the 1st few rounds, something must have changed.

 

[Rocky]

The difference is highlighted in your posts feathered friend as the choices we all make define us and our circumstances
All management / Head coaches are accountable for their teams out come
They are responsible for lifting their team above adversity ,ensuring the team achieves its goals and taking responsibility for both success and failures

As our Feathered friend @maxta has passionately said to me
Quote
In a Big Game and front of our full house of passionate manly fans we should run out ready to eat the opposition like raw meat
End Quote
So true and Thank you @maxta

But instead we came out passively eating a McDonalds Happy meal
Served by our Happy Meal Mentor Seibold

We need another Manly Mentor that is capable of turning our weak custard club culture
In to the Hard and Resolute Winning Manly Way Culture
Because our current Mentor does not have the Ability to set our High Manly Way Standards

When are you going to hold DCE accountable in all of this?

 

[BOZO]

When are you going to hold DCE accountable in all of this?

No Not at ALL
Players move on
and Its the Great coaches accountably to keep the playing group harmonious and keep winning

 

[Brookie1973]

Our defence line-speed is non-existent.

Not the manly way. We play to our strengths.

 

[Brookie1973]

What evidence to the contrary? Give it a break mate with your Siebold can’t coach $hit.

The evidence is right before your eyes. But whatever.

 

[cliffythegreat]

What evidence to the contrary? Give it a break mate with your Siebold can’t coach $hit.

You can argue all day whether he can coach or not but the fact is, the results are not there and his time is up!

 

[BOZO]

As far as Seibold coaching I felt at times I have seen some fancy and pretty football....but where is the aggression....when the going gets tough, Manly seem to slink away like they are not willing to get down and dirty on the physical side of things, so basically when a team comes out to play a hard, tough game, they generally get over Manly by winning the war of attrition and these post game presser interviews of "we tried hard....I thought we had a real go" ect is becoming frustrating to watch....where's the accountability ??

You summed things up feathered friend
Most of all.... Where is the accountability ?
There does not seem to be any at our club
And where there is no Accountability
A joint has no Credibility

 

[TJ55]

You summed things up feathered friend
Most of all.... Where is the accountability ?
There does not seem to be any at our club
And where there is no Accountability
A joint has no Credibility

I have said it before and I'll say it again
He is the complete opposite of a hardarse,if i was a player i dont think you could take him seriously, I dont think he is on Trent Barrett level but obviously something is brewing
Bring back Tooves or give Choc a crack at coaching

 

[TJ55]

Apologies for that.

I was just trying to make my point sarcastically that we are a long way off in our D. That the dogs is so much better than us is embarrassing.
This can only be attributed to the coach and Mestrov in our recruitment.

Our attack is fine, however it will never get us out of trouble in clutch games if our D is not in order.

The Dogs for the past 6 or so years have been a mess of a team and club, however before that they have seen success over the decades, clubs go through cycles from cellar dwellers to champions so a comparison like that doesn't make much sense

 

[Ron E. Gibbs]

That “free throw at the stumps” comment still pisses me off. Fancy a head coach of any professional sport anywhere in the world basically admitting they don’t have a chance.

Yeah, that infuriated me at the time and still infuriates me now.

I remain on the fence about Seibold. Basically, I think our senior playing group is full of habitual losers. Some of them are great players, some of them are great blokes, but they are used to losing and are way too ready to accept it for my liking. They are too comfortable, and rarely held accountable. Until they are gone, the bad habits that have killed this team for over a decade will likely remain.

[Looking at the above paragraph, that sounds a little more… blunt than I would have liked. But I'm not sure I can phrase it any better.]

Seibold came to the job with baggage of his own, but I reckon he was saddled with a lot more of it when he arrived. Which is why I've been willing to give him the benefit of the doubt. But this already looks like another lost season and he has to feel like his time is running out.

 

[XV-1]

The Dogs for the past 6 or so years have been a mess of a team and club, however before that they have seen success over the decades, clubs go through cycles from cellar dwellers to champions so a comparison like that doesn't make much sense

Why?

2 years ago Dogs were spoon with the worst D in the comp.
Ciraldo becomes the Coach the same time Seibold became Manly coach.

We have treated water at best. What have the dogs done? Besides base their entire game on defence - something Seibold seems to think is overrated 🤔

But a direct comparison makes no sense right 😆