[quote author=The Gronk]
Yeah well it is starting to chafe up something terrible.
btw, care to explain your cascading universe theory?
He'll give you a link to screeds of close type text that is unsupported, unexplained and without reference to the rational.
It's easy to write BS. Harder to substantiate it.
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you see matas, this subject is not just opinion there are lots of learned heads that have gone into the study of it all but who also have debated it on a level higher than you and I.
What this means is that you will have to read up on the subject otherwise you are arguing opinion only, and to be honest your opinion counts for jack when you are have an actualy topic at hand.
So what you will find is lots of sites and books with "close type" text, you see many a reference book and site use this, because there is just so much information to use.
So this time you may have to actually read these books, read these sites and read up on the topic not throw your religious beliefs and mumbo jumbo out there. This is a defining difference here, most of those sites and books i have already read, where you choose to pass them off.
And if you want to talk of the "unsupported, unexplained and without reference to the rational" what is religion again if not perfectly defined and summised by that snippet. "unsupported" may not be perfect but hey when we talk facts, it works a treat