ManlyTragic
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If we had our time again , should we have offered JWH a 8 year contract?
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Harry hindsight says yes but at the time he was bench/depth.
ManlyTragic
Bencher
That’s my point ! Don’t make the same mistake twice!
frank stokes
I discriminate indiscriminately
Cam Murray was $2.85M for 3 years…
Liam Martin was $1.7M for 3 years…
Both premiership winners that exceed at State and International level…
Manly is offering Guac $6.8M for 8 years… and he has played 2 games for Tonga and best place the team has finished with him in the team is 6th…
Two takeaways:
1. Manly is loose with cash and not afraid to sign our salary cap away for the next decade
2. Jeez the riff got a bargain deal…
Liam Martin was $1.7M for 3 years…
Both premiership winners that exceed at State and International level…
Manly is offering Guac $6.8M for 8 years… and he has played 2 games for Tonga and best place the team has finished with him in the team is 6th…
Two takeaways:
1. Manly is loose with cash and not afraid to sign our salary cap away for the next decade
2. Jeez the riff got a bargain deal…
I don't get the 'x team has only finished in x position with x player in the squad' argument. Bula has only ever won a spoon, does that make him terrible? Correlation does not equal causation.
That Martin contract is one of the all time great bargains and shows how success/culture/comradery can benefit a club.
frank stokes
I discriminate indiscriminately
It is not my sole argument…
Guac is a good player no doubt but I do not think he has done enough to throw Cam Murray type money at him for the better part of a decade… jmo…
frank stokes
I discriminate indiscriminately
No doubt… Martin and Murray are clearly the best second rowers in the league yet their teams are still smart enough to offer 3 year contracts so that they retain flexibility with their cap…
madmax
Bencher
Martin & Murray clearly the best second rowers lololol! Yeah right. Gimme Ola any day!
frank stokes
I discriminate indiscriminately
You are kidding yourself if you think Ola has anywhere near the impact that Murray or Martin do…
I know who I would rather have in my team with the game on the line and 10min to go… Guac loses a lot of impact after the first hour…
TheSoaringEagle2023
Bencher
Both Souths and Penrith have better pathways for youth development.
Stewbojevic
Reserve Grader
Well it’s November 1st and he hasn’t signed the monster deal…
He is currently signed till the end of 25 so cant talk to other clubs till Nov 1st 2024.
So today means nothing for Ola
Stewbojevic
Reserve Grader
Ah, right. Thanks for clarifying! I got wrapped up in the media storm
madmax
Bencher
Martin & Murray clearly the best second rowers lololol! Yeah right. Gimme Ola a day!
Not kidding myself at all! My opinion! Like I said Ola everyday of the week! Just have a listen to commentators from all over the world & their thoughts on Ola mate! He & Kolamatangi run rings around Murray & Martin.
frank stokes
I discriminate indiscriminately
Fair enough… my opinion is that offering 8 year contracts to forwards is a fools game…
If the story about the mammoth long term deal is even accurate - the main takeaway is that Manly has assessed Haumole as being really important for the club's playing culture 'going forward'.
We all know he is a beast on field but there has to be more to it than that.
TheSoaringEagle2023
Bencher
Both those guys are surrounded by a better forward pack than Ola is.
Murray has Cook, Kaolamatangi, Jai Arrow, Burgess.
Martin has Fisher-Harris, Leota, Leniu, Sorenson.
Ola only has Jake as a premier forward, whereas the others aren't in the same class as the above.
frank stokes
I discriminate indiscriminately
Cannot argue that… I did not start out trying to talk Guac down because he is one of the few X factor players in our squad…
just do not reckon it is a win for Manly throwing that much cash at him over such an extended period… things change and clubs need to retain flexibility with their cap imo…
sheridanstand78
First Grader
I am not a fan of 8 year contracts, I believe no player should get anything more than a 5 year deal. I hope Oka re-signs with the club as he is a valuable member of the team.
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