when does pre season training start?

[HappilyManly]

Pre-season return: November 6.

Off-season surgery: Dylan Walker went under the knife to fix a broken leg and dislocated ankle, while Jake Trbojevic had a torn pec repaired. Winger Johnathan Wright had finger surgery.

Ins: Toafofoa Sipley (Warriors), Jack Gosiewski (Rabbitohs), Lachlan Croker (Raiders)

Outs: Brenton Lawrence (Titans), Steve Matai (retired), Brett Stewart (retired), Jesse Martin (Rabbitohs), Billy Bainbridge (not re-signed)

 

[Jatz Crackers]

Look pre-season training has already started for me (and other fans) - Green still won't win us a comp, Kelly still hesitates in defence, Brown still fails to impose himself (except on our salary cap) and Winterstein still hasn't got any younger (despite all the chances we've given him).
Pre-season training is in full swing, from what I can see.
edit- oh yes, and Lussick is still an ill-disciplined hot-head.

That's a pretty fair assessment of our shortcomings.

But one thing in this business about shortcomings is so long as you have identified them, team improvement (wether recruitment or coaching) is just around the corner.

This we know of Manly over a long long time.