Yet another player cull needed

[1978]

It would be nice to have a pre-season with little player turnover so we can build on combinations and develop the squad. But that's not possible with our roster.

Players who should go at season's end:

1. Matai and Stewart (obviously)
2. Myles
3. Brown
4. Tafua (true warrior, but looks like a busted battering ram).
5. Lawrence (great Manly club man who will be ready for super league by year's end).
6. Winterstein (says it all that he's in run-on team. Would not make 17 elsewhere.)
7. Kennedy (would prefer youngsters Bainbridge/Hopoate get his spot).
8. Godinet (we have too many reserve half/hookers)
9. Barrett (does he count?)

 

[tookey]

Api as well as the two wrights

 

[Mark from Brisbane]

Whilst I agree with most of the above , no one will come if we keep this up, and we will not only be known as turnstiles in defence, but also in player turnover.

 

[Holmsey]

We can't keep Barrett, he's got no idea and I think another cull would be good plus if we don't rush like last year and get the right players and coach we will be able to properly start a new era.

 

[HK_Eagle]

Whilst I agree with most of the above , no one will come if we keep this up, and we will not only be known as turnstiles in defence, but also in player turnover.

I disagree. Every other club reject will be excited by the idea, knowing that a spot will open up sooner rather than later, and that they will get a run with us when nobody else would touch them. 🙂

 

[bob dylan]

We can't keep Barrett, he's got no idea and I think another cull would be good plus if we don't rush like last year and get the right players and coach we will be able to properly start a new era.

Geez young @Turbo1 you have changed your tune since you kept disliking every thing I posted about our 2017 chances. Here's just one example

https://silvertails.net/threads/top-8.50807/#post-864299

Edit: AT the end of the day I basically agreed with your original post. Who knows we might still be right, there is a long way to go.

 

[Mark from Brisbane]

I disagree. Every other club reject will be excited by the idea, knowing that a spot will open up sooner rather than later, and that they will get a run with us when nobody else would touch them. 🙂

Ok then, I'll rephrase that " no one of any note will come"

 

[Harvies elbow]

We are fast becoming the 2000teens version of the 80s rorters.
How many comps were won from that transit lounge again ??

 

[NYEagle]

It's only round 2 so before we make conclusions on player culls lets throw out some different team selections and combinations.
Certainly nothing to lose, we are playing like the wooden spoon team already.

Some suggestions from me and why:

Tafua into the forwards bench (runs hard but one dimensional with no skills any more and poor defence coverage on the wing with the weak defensive centres we have). New battering ram role for tired defenses.
Winterstein OUT - not a rugby league player.
Green OUT - Fail. Unmotivated weak slow fat journeyman player. Lose some weight fat boy in NSW cup, we can't afford to pile up 1st grade losses while you "settle in". Here is where Barrett can make a statement on accountability.
Korisau to bench - neurotic, unmotivated, and unstructured fool. Maybe he will work in tired defenses.
Brown OUT - no more bench this guy is rubbish.

I'd cull more but this team has no proven depth.

Parker to the wing, or anyone who can defend. Is he back yet?
Lane to the starting side - let's get started they can't be all bad
Lussick to the starting side - Looks like an immortal compared to this lot. Straight in.
Cullen to five eighth - Remember Toovey?. Anyone but Green.

NYEagle

 

[Harvies elbow]

It's only round 2 so before we make conclusions on player culls lets throw out some different team selections and combinations.
Certainly nothing to lose, we are playing like the wooden spoon team already.

Some suggestions from me and why:

Tafua into the forwards bench (runs hard but one dimensional with no skills any more and poor defence coverage on the wing with the weak defensive centres we have). New battering ram role for tired defenses.
Winterstein OUT - not a rugby league player.
Green OUT - Fail. Unmotivated weak slow fat journeyman player. Lose some weight fat boy in NSW cup, we can't afford to pile up 1st grade losses while you "settle in". Here is where Barrett can make a statement on accountability.
Korisau to bench - neurotic, unmotivated, and unstructured fool. Maybe he will work in tired defenses.
Brown OUT - no more bench this guy is rubbish.

I'd cull more but this team has no proven depth.

Parker to the wing, or anyone who can defend. Is he back yet?
Lane to the starting side - let's get started they can't be all bad
Lussick to the starting side - Looks like an immortal compared to this lot. Straight in.
Cullen to five eighth - Remember Toovey?. Anyone but Green.

NYEagle

Bad bad Lewis Brown is like that pisshead down the pub that you can't get rid of.
Everytime you go there there he is.
What will it take for him to shake hands with the Blacktown boys.
( my apologies to the Blacktown boys )

 

[Simonmyers11]

It would be nice to have a pre-season with little player turnover so we can build on combinations and develop the squad. But that's not possible with our roster.

Players who should go at season's end:

1. Matai and Stewart (obviously)
2. Myles
3. Brown
4. Tafua (true warrior, but looks like a busted battering ram).
5. Lawrence (great Manly club man who will be ready for super league by year's end).
6. Winterstein (says it all that he's in run-on team. Would not make 17 elsewhere.)
7. Kennedy (would prefer youngsters Bainbridge/Hopoate get his spot).
8. Godinet (we have too many reserve half/hookers)
9. Barrett (does he count?)

Agree with all of the above. Although Lawrence was the best on field on Sat, he needs to do that every week to keep a bench spot. Tafua is a beast but lacks energy and myles actually was terrific in defence on the weekend but he is just a plodder and we need more meters from a front rower. Winterstein is garbage as is Brown and Kennedy. We need a real decent prop to partner Lussick and better stsrting backrower to partner marty and jake. Siro can come off the bench unless he ups his workload and running meters.

Long term 5/8 is the unknown too

 

[Harvies elbow]

Agree with all of the above. Although Lawrence was the best on field on Sat, he needs to do that every week to keep a bench spot. Tafua is a beast but lacks energy and myles actually was terrific in defence on the weekend but he is just a plodder and we need more meters from a front rower. Winterstein is garbage as is Brown and Kennedy. We need a real decent prop to partner Lussick and better stsrting backrower to partner marty and jake. Siro can come off the bench unless he ups his workload and running meters.

Long term 5/8 is the unknown too

I thought Lawrence was great from start to finish. Him and Jake constantly bent Souffs defence.
Dunno what some of the others were doing while that was going on.

 

[conanu]

We are fast becoming the 2000teens version of the 80s rorters.
How many comps were won from that transit lounge again ??

Wasn't Bozo running the joint then?

 

[Harvies elbow]

Wasn't Bozo running the joint then?

I hear you mate but to be fair he was with us from 83 onward.
They continued that policy all through aided and abetted by Ron Jones money bags and scattergun recruitment policy.

 

[conanu]

I hear you mate but to be fair he was with us from 83 onward.
They continued that policy all through aided and abetted by Ron Jones money bags and scattergun recruitment policy.

I actually wasn't sure but cheers for letting me know.

 

[Harvies elbow]

I think bozo was followed by Laurie Freier as rorters coach.
One of the greatest coaching appointment mistakes in history.
Ex sea eagle as well.

 

[Holmsey]

Geez young @Turbo1 you have changed your tune since you kept disliking every thing I posted about our 2017 chances. Here's just one example

https://silvertails.net/threads/top-8.50807/#post-864299

Edit: AT the end of the day I basically agreed with your original post. Who knows we might still be right, there is a long way to go.

Well I think I got hit by the reality train.

 

[bob dylan]

Well I think I got hit by the reality train.

But do you think we can fight back, maybe not this week and maybe not make the 8, but win 6-8 games?

 

[Holmsey]

But do you think we can fight back, maybe not this week and maybe not make the 8, but win 6-8 games?

Look I'm not sure, based on round 1 and 2 wooden spoon is likely and I think 6 to 8 games will be a stretch. I'd say 4 or 3 wins and I dare say wooden spoon. The team is just on a really poor level in the forwards and the backs aren't exactly firing besides Tom and Brian.

 

[nightster]

It's only round 2 so before we make conclusions on player culls lets throw out some different team selections and combinations.
Certainly nothing to lose, we are playing like the wooden spoon team already.

Some suggestions from me and why:

Tafua into the forwards bench (runs hard but one dimensional with no skills any more and poor defence coverage on the wing with the weak defensive centres we have). New battering ram role for tired defenses.
Winterstein OUT - not a rugby league player.
Green OUT - Fail. Unmotivated weak slow fat journeyman player. Lose some weight fat boy in NSW cup, we can't afford to pile up 1st grade losses while you "settle in". Here is where Barrett can make a statement on accountability.
Korisau to bench - neurotic, unmotivated, and unstructured fool. Maybe he will work in tired defenses.
Brown OUT - no more bench this guy is rubbish.

I'd cull more but this team has no proven depth.

Parker to the wing, or anyone who can defend. Is he back yet?
Lane to the starting side - let's get started they can't be all bad
Lussick to the starting side - Looks like an immortal compared to this lot. Straight in.
Cullen to five eighth - Remember Toovey?. Anyone but Green.

NYEagle

Lussick, Lane & Parker have all been injured