Coach Seibold thoughts so far.... so good

[XV-1]

Olakau'atu, Paseka no doubt in career best form this year.

I'd argue Burbo is as well. I'd say Talau looking his best version in first grade too.

Many stating the same for DCE whilst Brown is turning back the clock.

We had a shocker of a second half last night and I was furious but it does change the fact the season has been pretty decent thus far.

We were pretty decent at the same stage last year.
I thought Haumole was better last year.
Paseka is old enough to know what he has to do to be better and more consistent.
Talau has stated he has lost 8kg vs last year- the Pommy trainer needs kudos for that.
Burbo was also good last year imo.

Let's hope we have grown.

 

[davohan123]

 

[Under the Sticks]

I’m not sure if he is too smart or the players are too dumb but I’m sensing a disconnect in the ability to execute a game plan.

 

[master blaster]

I wouldnt be rushing to extend him, not at this stage. The next 3 games are going to be telling. If we lose those 3 games, I reckon we will be talking about another coach under pressure

 

[mickqld]

I’m not sure if he is too smart or the players are too dumb but I’m sensing a disconnect in the ability to execute a game plan.

What's the game plan when you lead 24-6 well into the 2nd half at home against a team who couldn't score a single point at their home the previous week with their coach celebrating 500 career games. Fuk me dead it's just incomprehensible how lame, stupid, dumb , weak minded this team can be.

 

[Under the Sticks]

What's the game plan when you lead 24-6 well into the 2nd half at home against a team who couldn't score a single point at their home the previous week with their coach celebrating 500 career games. Fuk me dead it's just incomprehensible how lame, stupid, dumb , weak minded this team can be.

@mickqld i like your measurement scale. Looks pretty well calibrated too!

 

[Kiwi Eagle]

Was terrible last night how we just completely cut out using our backrowers, especially in those conditions. Our game plan on the right uses Olakau’atu extensively and we changed it last night to hardly use Bullemore at all. He could have been dangerous running decent lines

 

[LeonardCohen]

Firstly, I should disclose that I am mindful of knee-jerk reactions after a loss. If we win Magic Round against the Broncos, I will be eating my words, etc. but...

My concerns are that we might be over-coached. I look at a team like the Dolphins who clearly have a lack of star quality. They signed Flegler and Farnworth to improve their roster, but both have long term injuries, and across the board they have the thinnest roster in the NRL. However, you can count on them competing hard each week. Sometimes games get away from them at the back end, where the lack of talent catches up. They play a very simple game, based on effort (a hallmark of Bennett coached sides). Not a lot of tactical thought goes into their preparation and they attack with very simple structures. It's all about winning the middle and playing percentages.

Which brings me to Manly...

Our game is not about winning the middle and playing percentages; two things that have won football games since 1908. Our game is about caution to the wind, lots of complicated attacking shapes and ball movement (no wonder we look clunky). It's as if Seibold's approach involves 'thinking' our way to victory, instead of 'toughing' our way to victory.

What is most perplexing is that we would adopt such tactics with an abundance of natural footballing ability at the club. It's unnecessary to focus so much on attacking structures and shapes, when you've got so much size and speed on the edges, creativity in the halves, and a fullback with so many weapons. Essentially, the attack will take care of itself through the natural footballing ability, when our team is on top in the ruck.

This type of approach is very Bellamy, Bennett, and dare I say it, Hasler. Attacking structures are simple and repetitive. All the players are asked to do is compete hard. A common trend I have noticed with Manly is we score a couple of really scintillating tries, and then the points dry up. Why? Because we start finessing our way around the field and push the envelope to a point where players get frustrated and errors creep in. It's why Turbo keeps dropping so much ball. He is thinking about the big play all the time. If anything, we'd probably score more points if we could dominate the physical battle and break teams down over the course of a game, with percentage football. The Dolpins did it to the Eels a few weeks back and Penrith did it the other night against Souths. They were missing their biggest attacking weapon but they got on top in the grind and the floodgates opened. They scored some pretty unenterprising tries, but they still count for 4 points; as much as the length of the field pearler. In the end, they'd scored 42 in total.

 

[Rocky]

I'm fairly neutral on Seibold - happy to see how things play out.

I do chuckle at the narratives of the haters though and how they pile on after a loss.

The reality is that the team runs hot and cold on the back of DCE. A lot of it is high-risk footy and when it comes off it's great and when it doesn't, we get games or stretches of games last night.

 

[Pete W]

Firstly, I should disclose that I am mindful of knee-jerk reactions after a loss. If we win Magic Round against the Broncos, I will be eating my words, etc. but...

My concerns are that we might be over-coached. I look at a team like the Dolphins who clearly have a lack of star quality. They signed Flegler and Farnworth to improve their roster, but both have long term injuries, and across the board they have the thinnest roster in the NRL. However, you can count on them competing hard each week. Sometimes games get away from them at the back end, where the lack of talent catches up. They play a very simple game, based on effort (a hallmark of Bennett coached sides). Not a lot of tactical thought goes into their preparation and they attack with very simple structures. It's all about winning the middle and playing percentages.

Which brings me to Manly...

Our game is not about winning the middle and playing percentages; two things that have won football games since 1908. Our game is about caution to the wind, lots of complicated attacking shapes and ball movement (no wonder we look clunky). It's as if Seibold's approach involves 'thinking' our way to victory, instead of 'toughing' our way to victory.

What is most perplexing is that we would adopt such tactics with an abundance of natural footballing ability at the club. It's unnecessary to focus so much on attacking structures and shapes, when you've got so much size and speed on the edges, creativity in the halves, and a fullback with so many weapons. Essentially, the attack will take care of itself through the natural footballing ability, when our team is on top in the ruck.

This type of approach is very Bellamy, Bennett, and dare I say it, Hasler. Attacking structures are simple and repetitive. All the players are asked to do is compete hard. A common trend I have noticed with Manly is we score a couple of really scintillating tries, and then the points dry up. Why? Because we start finessing our way around the field and push the envelope to a point where players get frustrated and errors creep in. It's why Turbo keeps dropping so much ball. He is thinking about the big play all the time. If anything, we'd probably score more points if we could dominate the physical battle and break teams down over the course of a game, with percentage football. The Dolpins did it to the Eels a few weeks back and Penrith did it the other night against Souths. They were missing their biggest attacking weapon but they got in top in the grind and the floodgates opened. They scored some pretty unenterprising tries, but they still count for 4 points; as much as the length of the field pearler. In the end, they'd scored 42 points.

Spot on. It's a very simple game when stripped back. Win the middle, hold your line. That's it.

This is exactly why I have always believed Seibold is exactly the worst possible head of department for a rugby league team.

This new age type with catch phrases and buzz words, intellectualising the physical, has never, and will never, yield sustained success. This way lacks authenticity, character, and grit. A road to nowhere.

 

[LeonardCohen]

Spot on. It's a very simple game when stripped back. Win the middle, hold your line. That's it.

This is exactly why I have always believed Seibold is exactly the worst possible head of department for a rugby league team.

This new age type with catch phrases and buzz words, intellectualising the physical, has never, and will never, yield sustained success. This way lacks authenticity, character, and grit. A road to nowhere.

Sadly I think you could be right. Word out of the sheds at halftime was Seibs wanted a focus on defence. Trouble is, if you spend all pre-season talking about revolutionising the attack (based on rugby union methods) and using 'our weapons', etc. you cannot suddenly ask the focus to be on something else?! The precedent has already been set.

I'm also getting frustrated with Seibs saying the competition is tough and credit to the opposition in our press conferences. Get some hard edge about ya Anthony!

 

[StuBoot]

Sadly I think you could be right. Word out of the sheds at halftime was Seibs wanted a focus on defence. Trouble is, if you spend all pre-season talking about revolutionising the attack (based on rugby union methods) and using 'our weapons', etc. you cannot suddenly ask the focus to be on something else?! The precedent has already been set.

I'm also getting frustrated with Seibs saying the competition is tough and credit to the opposition in our press conferences. Get some hard edge about ya Anthony!

We seem to have little trouble bringing our "weapons" but maybe should focus on bringing our "shields" too!

 

[Not Paul Kent]

Time to update the thread title Cambo

 

[Dion Johnson]

On the back of @Rosko from last night an article from Bulldog on a new two year deal.

NRL 2025: Manly Sea Eagles set to re-sign coach Anthony Seibold on a two-year contract extension​

Six months after walking out of a meeting with the club, Manly coach Anthony Seibold is on the verge of signing a contract extension that will secure his future on the Northern Beaches.

The amazing resurrection of Anthony Seibold will continue just in time for Christmas.
In a festive boost to the Sea Eagles, this masthead can reveal Manly is on the verge of announcing a new contract extension keeping Seibold at Brookvale for another three years.

Seibold, 50, has another season to run on his existing contract before signing a deal which runs over 2026 and 2027.

The club isn’t commenting on the imminent deal, but Sea Eagles chief executive Tony Mestrov told the Manly football club AGM of the Seibold development on Thursday night.

It is possible the contract could be completed and announced as early as next week, but most certainly before the club breaks for Christmas on December 20.

This masthead understands only a few finer details of the contract need to be completed

It is a pivotal moment in Manly’s future with the club now securing long-term stability.

Manly and Seibold have formed a strong and successful bond over their two-year marriage.

The Sea Eagles reached week two of the NRL finals this year before being eliminated by Sydney Roosters.


It hasn’t all been smooth, though.

In May this year, reports emerged that Seibold walked out of a meeting with club powerbrokers after a breakdown in contract negotiations.

Those discussions have ramped up over the past six weeks with one source claiming Seibold’s contract talks were in the “latter stages.”

With a settled board supporting him, Mestrov continues building Manly into a premiership force.

Seibold has found a new home full of optimism at Manly after a mixed career which included being named Dally M coach of the year at Souths in 2018, coupled with an early dismissal at Brisbane in 2020.

The looming announcement will end a whispering campaign about who will take Manly forward as head coach.

After a strong 2024, Manly are paying $15 to win the grand final next season, sitting equal with the Sydney Roosters, according to TAB.

Seibold’s Sea Eagles play North Queensland in round one next season on March 8 at 4 Pines Park.

Manly’s finals loss to the Roosters this year came after losing centre Tolu Koula and forward Jake Trbojevic to HIA’s during the first two tackles of the game.

It was reported earlier this week that Manly and Seibold were unlikely to pursue Wests Tigers backrower John Bateman.

 

[BOZO]

On the back of @Rosko from last night an article from Bulldog on a new two year deal.

NRL 2025: Manly Sea Eagles set to re-sign coach Anthony Seibold on a two-year contract extension​

Six months after walking out of a meeting with the club, Manly coach Anthony Seibold is on the verge of signing a contract extension that will secure his future on the Northern Beaches.

The amazing resurrection of Anthony Seibold will continue just in time for Christmas.
In a festive boost to the Sea Eagles, this masthead can reveal Manly is on the verge of announcing a new contract extension keeping Seibold at Brookvale for another three years.

Seibold, 50, has another season to run on his existing contract before signing a deal which runs over 2026 and 2027.

The club isn’t commenting on the imminent deal, but Sea Eagles chief executive Tony Mestrov told the Manly football club AGM of the Seibold development on Thursday night.

It is possible the contract could be completed and announced as early as next week, but most certainly before the club breaks for Christmas on December 20.

This masthead understands only a few finer details of the contract need to be completed

It is a pivotal moment in Manly’s future with the club now securing long-term stability.

Manly and Seibold have formed a strong and successful bond over their two-year marriage.

The Sea Eagles reached week two of the NRL finals this year before being eliminated by Sydney Roosters.


It hasn’t all been smooth, though.

In May this year, reports emerged that Seibold walked out of a meeting with club powerbrokers after a breakdown in contract negotiations.

Those discussions have ramped up over the past six weeks with one source claiming Seibold’s contract talks were in the “latter stages.”

With a settled board supporting him, Mestrov continues building Manly into a premiership force.

Seibold has found a new home full of optimism at Manly after a mixed career which included being named Dally M coach of the year at Souths in 2018, coupled with an early dismissal at Brisbane in 2020.

The looming announcement will end a whispering campaign about who will take Manly forward as head coach.

After a strong 2024, Manly are paying $15 to win the grand final next season, sitting equal with the Sydney Roosters, according to TAB.

Seibold’s Sea Eagles play North Queensland in round one next season on March 8 at 4 Pines Park.

Manly’s finals loss to the Roosters this year came after losing centre Tolu Koula and forward Jake Trbojevic to HIA’s during the first two tackles of the game.

It was reported earlier this week that Manly and Seibold were unlikely to pursue Wests Tigers backrower John Bateman.

Thanks for posting feathered friend .
The Bulldog Dean Ritchie Never ceases to AMAZE
Quote
The AMAZING resurrection of Anthony Seibold will continue just in time for Christmas.
End Quote
What does AMAZING mean ?
The Oxford says it means ASTONISHING , ASTOUNDING and PHENOMINAL

Who Needs Cleary , Bennet and Bellamy when we have the AMAZING Seibold and Dean Bulldog Ritchie by his side .

 

[Brocky]

No other coaches available, still not sold on him

 

[ManlyTragic]

Thanks for posting feathered friend .
The Bulldog Dean Ritchie Never ceases to AMAZE
Quote
The AMAZING resurrection of Anthony Seibold will continue just in time for Christmas.
End Quote
What does AMAZING mean ?
The Oxford says it means ASTONISHING , ASTOUNDING and PHENOMINAL

Who Needs Cleary , Bennet and Bellamy when we have the AMAZING Seibold and Dean Bulldog Ritchie by his side .

…. Would you rather Benji?

Just sayin’

 

[Andyvb88]

I have liked what I have seen so far, the first time in a long time I have felt whilst watching us play, that we are able to win all the games. Yes we dropped the ball a few times out went to sleep, however we competed with the best teams this year

 

[BOZO]

…. Would you rather Benji?

Just sayin’

Would we rather have Benji ?
At Manly we do not aim Below
At Manly we aim High and look at Better options

 

[BOZO]

No other coaches available, still not sold on him

At the end of each year a coaches report card looks like this
UNDERACHIEVE and fail to meet expectations
MEET EXPECTATIONS and meet the minimum requirements
EXCEED EXPECTATIONS and Over achieve

In his first year he Underachieved and failed to get a top 8 roster into the top 8
In his second season he just met expectations and and got the top 8 roster into the top 8
In his second season he also failed to lift his team on our last home game against the sharks to earn a Home finals game when his team capitulated by 40 points
In our first finals game the underdog Bulldogs dominated the game for 70 minutes and we narrowly escaped their Bulldog jaws of defeat by a last minute individual try by our game breaker Koula .
In our second finals game against a Roosters team missing their Key spine players in their halfback Walker and Brendon Smith his team continued their inconsistency with another 40 points seasons exit capitulation
In his second season he only managed to lift his team to win 3 games in a row just once and our inconsistency through the season of win one lose two , win two lose one would as Steve Roach said on Fox sports become the catalyst of our disappointing finals 40 point capitulation seasons exit .