Coach Seibold thoughts so far.... so good

[JenEagle]

I’m wondering if Siebold has had enough of coaching. He came on to the scene with a bang at souths and got poached by the broncos before getting embroiled in all sorts of politics there.

Came back and had another crack at manly and it’s been somewhat mediocre.

He’s a smart motivated guy. He probably thinks this is a mugs game. I can do something else without getting beaten up in the press each week.

 

[Under the Sticks]

I’m wondering if Siebold has had enough of coaching. He came on to the scene with a bang at souths and got poached by the broncos before getting embroiled in all sorts of politics there.

Came back and had another crack at manly and it’s been somewhat mediocre.

He’s a smart motivated guy. He probably thinks this is a mugs game. I can do something else without getting beaten up in the press each week.

Already in the press that he is above head coaching and wants a General Manager role ala the man of a thousand bee stings Gould

 

[SeaEagleRock8]

He’s a smart motivated guy. He probably thinks this is a mugs game. I can do something else without getting beaten up in the press each week.

The last week or so is prob the first time he's been beaten up in the press for ages.
Social media, on the other hand...
including this place, where he's been beaten up on an hourly basis pretty much ever since he signed with Manly

 

[BOZO]

and Matai played most of his career with chronic neck and shoulder pain (understandable when you consider how hard he whacked in defence. Those hits would have hurt him almost as much as the victims)

Thanks for the memories feathered friend
What hurt Matai more than his impacted chronic injuries more was Manly losing
Matai was a highly competitive player
Matai played with passion to win and with no preservation with out regard for his own safety , well being or survival .
A player who put his body and his life on the line

 

[Mark from Brisbane]

The last week or so is prob the first time he's been beaten up in the press for ages.
Social media, on the other hand...
including this place, where he's been beaten up on an hourly basis pretty much ever since he signed with Manly

Due to his exit from Brisbane ( and you know my side of that ) he was doomed on here from the moment he got the job.

I’m not yet convinced he’s a good coach but equally I’m not yet convinced he’s a bad one either.

There’s so much happening that’s extraneous to what he can do , injuries , limited funds , the captain issue & most of all limited in what he can buy with the cap problems.

But no doubt most on here have him as a dud and no doubt the fan pressure for him to be sacked is immense , however what none of them can answer is who is the replacement, and will we be better off by having him.

I honestly believe if you dropped in the best coach in the system ( let’s say Bellamy ) for a year ( with the same players / set up and same set of circumstance’s that confront the existing coach ) that the position on the ladder would be very very similar.

But that’s just my opinion and is very hypothetical.

 

[Ralphie]

Due to his exit from Brisbane ( and you know my side of that ) he was doomed on here from the moment he got the job.

I’m not yet convinced he’s a good coach but equally I’m not yet convinced he’s a bad one either.

There’s so much happening that’s extraneous to what he can do , injuries , limited funds , the captain issue & most of all limited in what he can buy with the cap problems.

But no doubt most on here have him as a dud and no doubt the fan pressure for him to be sacked is immense , however what none of them can answer is who is the replacement, and will we be better off by having him.

I honestly believe if you dropped in the best coach in the system ( let’s say Bellamy ) for a year ( with the same players / set up and same set of circumstance’s that confront the existing coach ) that the position on the ladder would be very very similar.

But that’s just my opinion and is very hypothetical.

Yep, he's a Dud!

 

[The '47ers]

Did I just hear Warren Smith say the Sharks had an honesty session through the week????

Obviously Fitzy can't coach either.

They don't work, it has to have some new age pull through name like "campfire chat"

 

[BOZO]

and Matai played most of his career with chronic neck and shoulder pain (understandable when you consider how hard he whacked in defence. Those hits would have hurt him almost as much as the victims)

@SeaEagleRock8
Why did you edit my passionate post ?
It does not matter
No owns anyone's rights of expression
I will Not post here any more because this forum does not allow you to post your views

 

[Frogz]

@SeaEagleRock8
Why did you edit my passionate post ?
It does not matter
No owns anyone's rights of expression
I will Not post here any more because this forum does not allow you to post your views

Gee there are some people who have got a bit of sand in their Vag's this last week or 2. Harden up peoples, its just a forum.

 

[Mark from Brisbane]

Yep, he's a Dud!

And you are in the majority with that opinion.

But as I say , chuck in the best coach with the identical set of circumstances in his place and I bet our ladder position would be about the same.

So then we’d have , Belldud

Who’d be a coach , not me

 

[Ralphie]

And you are in the majority with that opinion.

But as I say , chuck in the best coach with the identical set of circumstances in his place and I bet our ladder position would be about the same.

So then we’d have , Belldud

Who’d be a coach , not me

If we had the best coach, the decisions would have been different, and we wouldn't be in this position. I had the same gut feeling about Barrett that I have about Seibold, and even serious attempts to look for the positives has come up empty handed. I get what you are saying, and I respect your opinion, but we will be an "also ran" until we get a blue-blooded Manly Man in there who is given time ala Des in 2004. Back then, he had no better coaching credentials than, say Matt Ballin, but because he understood the culture he grew into the role.

 

[Mark from Brisbane]

If we had the best coach, the decisions would have been different, and we wouldn't be in this position. I had the same gut feeling about Barrett that I have about Seibold, and even serious attempts to look for the positives has come up empty handed. I get what you are saying, and I respect your opinion, but we will be an "also ran" until we get a blue-blooded Manly Man in there who is given time ala Des in 2004. Back then, he had no better coaching credentials than, say Matt Ballin, but because he understood the culture he grew into the role.

So let me understand this

A Manly coach would have stopped the D$E implosion ??

And would have instantly fixed our cap issues ??

And we wouldn’t have the injury crises with a Manly man ??

And you could add to that , would a Manly man see the owners pay more than lip service to the organisation ??

Look I get you hate Seibold , all good , we all have opinions , but I’m sorry I just don’t see how ( let’s say Ballin ) would magically have fixed all these issues and seen us in a better position.

So much on here is all about “ we only succeed with a Manly man “.

That’s certainly been the case in the past but NRL, circa 2025 is a completely different beast.

 

[Nordburg]

So let me understand this

A Manly coach would have stopped the D$E implosion ??

And would have instantly fixed our cap issues ??

And we wouldn’t have the injury crises with a Manly man ??

And you could add to that , would a Manly man see the owners pay more than lip service to the organisation ??

Look I get you hate Seibold , all good , we all have opinions , but I’m sorry I just don’t see how ( let’s say Ballin ) would magically have fixed all these issues and seen us in a better position.

So much on here is all about “ we only succeed with a Manly man “.

That’s certainly been the case in the past but NRL, circa 2025 is a completely different beast.

I believe the DCE situation would not exist if there was a Manly coach,or any other coach for that matter.The rest,well another coach can’t perform that many miracles

 

[SeaEagleRock8]

@SeaEagleRock8
Why did you edit my passionate post ?
It does not matter
No owns anyone's rights of expression
I will Not post here any more because this forum does not allow you to post your views

I think you're barking up the wrong tree, Bozo.
1 - I haven't noticed any passionate posts from you, although admittedly I often avoid scrolling through your posts because they are mostly repetitive spam
2 - what makes you think I edited your post?
3 - what makes you think I could edit your posts even if I wanted to? Don't you think if I could do that I might have done it long ago!
4 - if you aren't posting any more then don't worry about posting responses to my questions, I'll just try to imagine what you would have said, if you were still posting.

 

[eaglebuzz]

Gee there are some people who have got a bit of sand in their Vag's this last week or 2. Harden up peoples, its just a forum.

A significant proportion of posters have him on ignore anyway.

 

[Mark from Brisbane]

I believe the DCE situation would not exist if there was a Manly coach,or any other coach for that matter.The rest,well another coach can’t perform that many miracles

That view is as much conjecture as the complete opposite.

The people who would know the real story

The Dollar Chaser
His wife
Probably his parents
His manager
Our CEO
Our Coach

And until one of them wants to spill the beans we will never know , could be the coach , could be the hard nut CEO, could be Penn, could be not enough offered to his liking , or none offered.

Unless you have direct access to any of the above and they’ve given you approval to spill the beans it’s simply conjecture.

I’ll still stick with my view that regardless of the coach this year we’d still be having a poor year.

 

[Scorpio]

we will be an "also ran" until we get a blue-blooded Manly Man in there who is given time ala Des in 2004. Back then, he had no better coaching credentials than, say Matt Ballin, but because he understood the culture he grew into the role.

How much time is enough time?

In Des' first stint, the team finished in 13th, 8th, 5th, 2nd (Runners-up)... then won two premierships in the next 4 years.

Since then, we had Toovey and Des v2... both missed the finals in their 4th year as coach and were shown the door. Was that enough time or not?

Seibold as Manly coach has finished 12th, 7th, and in his third year we can very feasibly make the finals... and quite a few here seem to want him sacked yesterday.

 

[double hoops]

I’m wondering if Siebold has had enough of coaching. He came on to the scene with a bang at souths and got poached by the broncos before getting embroiled in all sorts of politics there.

Came back and had another crack at manly and it’s been somewhat mediocre.

He’s a smart motivated guy. He probably thinks this is a mugs game. I can do something else without getting beaten up in the press each week.

I may be wrong. But I reckon he loves it. He might well be having a difficult year. But if it doesn't kill you. It makes you stronger. IF he survives. I reckon our assistant will get a shake up. But thats all a long way off at the moment.

And this week's game is probably MIGOTY.

Souths got he win last year.

We need to reverse it this year.

 

[Rocky]

The biggest myth going around on here is that we need a "Manly man"

We won comps with Bozo and Des because they were all time great coaches - not because they played for the club.

We just need a really good coach no matter the background

 

[Rafferty]

The biggest myth going around on here is that we need a "Manly man"

We won comps with Bozo and Des because they were all time great coaches - not because they played for the club.

We just need a really good coach no matter the background

Yep, Bozo and Des were both strong characters, very similar to Bellyache. For me, I just don’t see Seibs commanding that level of respect, hence his journey. I feel pretty certain in saying a strong character is the essential element to being a successful coach, especially in men’s sport. Time will provide the answers on Seibs, perhaps the balance of this season will be all it takes.