Coach Seibold thoughts so far.... so good

[Brookie Bob]

Back to the thread title.
I've read a lot of Seibold bagging by a lot of posters.

After a loss, that happens a fair bit. Seeing a lot of 'if only we had a great tactician and motivator - we would always win. Spoonbold. Spoony. Not a Manly coach. Winning is everything - loosing is for losers' etc etc etc. 'How dare he say that he's proud of the boys / our effort after a loss?'

Wayne Bennett is one of the most decorated RL coaches of all time, most grand final wins, winning seven premierships from ten grand final appearances in the NRL and its predecessors the Super League and New South Wales Rugby League, is coaching a team which is running 16 out of 17 in the premiership. The Bunnies currently have a minus 129 in their for and against.

I don't hear any chorus about Wayne Bennett's coaching abilities - that he's a loser, has lost his ability, or he's not a motivator.

Perhaps success on the field is truly 'multi-factorial' ; i.e. many factors are involved.

And very sadly, that's why I've started blocking particular posters on here. I really didn't want to - I want to see all opinions, no matter how wacky.

But if a poster cannot see any sort of balance at all, and just keeps endlessly banging the same drum based on opinion with no real substantive, balanced evidence (and it's really a bit libelous at the end of the day), then a block it is.

 

[SeaEagleRock8]

But if a poster cannot see any sort of balance at all, and just keeps endlessly banging the same drum based on opinion with no real substantive, balanced evidence (and it's really a bit libelous at the end of the day), then a block it is.

Yep drums are an amazing instrument, but if you're stuck for any amount of time listening to one being whacked by someone that doesn't know how ... can be truly painful

 

[SeaEagleRock8]

As for Seibs, it occurs to me another reason why moving Turbo to centre has gone OK is that it still gives us a threat on both sides, even without Haumole.
Will be interesting to see if he stays there once Haumole returns. And if so, how effective they might be together? Could be a lot of fun to watch!

 

[LeonardCohen]

Yep drums are an amazing instrument, but if you're stuck for any amount of time listening to one being whacked by someone that doesn't know how ... can be truly painful

Are you talking about Bozo? I used to think he was funny and a bit of comic relief but even I’ve been tested by the same incessant ranting about Mestrov and Seibold. Unless the forum is full of amnesiacs, I see no reason to keep pedalling the same message day in and day out for months at a time, across multiple threads.

 

[Mark from Brisbane]

Back to the thread title.
I've read a lot of Seibold bagging by a lot of posters.

After a loss, that happens a fair bit. Seeing a lot of 'if only we had a great tactician and motivator - we would always win. Spoonbold. Spoony. Not a Manly coach. Winning is everything - loosing is for losers' etc etc etc. 'How dare he say that he's proud of the boys / our effort after a loss?'

Wayne Bennett is one of the most decorated RL coaches of all time, most grand final wins, winning seven premierships from ten grand final appearances in the NRL and its predecessors the Super League and New South Wales Rugby League, is coaching a team which is running 16 out of 17 in the premiership. The Bunnies currently have a minus 129 in their for and against.

I don't hear any chorus about Wayne Bennett's coaching abilities - that he's a loser, has lost his ability, or he's not a motivator.

Perhaps success on the field is truly 'multi-factorial' ; i.e. many factors are involved.

And very sadly, that's why I've started blocking particular posters on here. I really didn't want to - I want to see all opinions, no matter how wacky.

But if a poster cannot see any sort of balance at all, and just keeps endlessly banging the same drum based on opinion with no real substantive, balanced evidence (and it's really a bit libelous at the end of the day), then a block it is.

There’s always or should always be , balance.

Don’t you think it’s hilarious , we lose, the pile on begins , and they bang on incessantly until the next game and if we lose that one too the sky is literally falling in.

However , we win one ( and now two ) and those posters ( who add absolutely zero to the forum otherwise ) hide until the next loss.

I had to laugh on Sunday , I was keeping and eye on the game day forum and old Soupy was doing his usual thing , **** team, **** player blah blah blah but then we went 1,2, 3 bingo and he just stopped posting , vanished only to reappear the next time we lose.

I’m absolutely sure who Soupy is , a once regular poster , who got caned for his constant negativity , so he just starts another account, in fact I think he might have 2 or 3 accounts.

Of course there’s always balance and losses are always due to multiple factors , NOT, just the coach.

 

[Brookie1973]

Back to the thread title.
I've read a lot of Seibold bagging by a lot of posters.

After a loss, that happens a fair bit. Seeing a lot of 'if only we had a great tactician and motivator - we would always win. Spoonbold. Spoony. Not a Manly coach. Winning is everything - loosing is for losers' etc etc etc. 'How dare he say that he's proud of the boys / our effort after a loss?'

Wayne Bennett is one of the most decorated RL coaches of all time, most grand final wins, winning seven premierships from ten grand final appearances in the NRL and its predecessors the Super League and New South Wales Rugby League, is coaching a team which is running 16 out of 17 in the premiership. The Bunnies currently have a minus 129 in their for and against.

I don't hear any chorus about Wayne Bennett's coaching abilities - that he's a loser, has lost his ability, or he's not a motivator.

Perhaps success on the field is truly 'multi-factorial' ; i.e. many factors are involved.

And very sadly, that's why I've started blocking particular posters on here. I really didn't want to - I want to see all opinions, no matter how wacky.

But if a poster cannot see any sort of balance at all, and just keeps endlessly banging the same drum based on opinion with no real substantive, balanced evidence (and it's really a bit libelous at the end of the day), then a block it is.

Personally, I haven’t mentioned the coach in weeks, and haven’t seen any coach bagging of note since we last lost a game, so not sure why the need to resurrect the issue again. I would only say that the obvious difference with Bennett is that he has runs on the board (ie premierships) which affords him some leeway. Nevertheless I have seen quite a bit of Bennett and Hasler bashing on here, in the form of the “too old and past it” variety.

 

[Brocky]

Seibold track record is hurrendous, can’t mention his name in the same sentence as Bennett period

 

[Jethro]

No pre-game thread yet because of the bye - so I'll float this question here?

How much do people think Storm will beat Manly by? I'm assuming many will guess somewhere between a lot and a record thrashing. Based on facts!

• They thrashed us last time, on our home. This time it's their home ground
• They have the greatest club coach in NRL history, we have Seibold
• They have superstars in key positions, we have a couple of broken down ex-stars
• They have journeymen turned into top-liners by Bellamy and the great Storm culture, we have retirees and Lodge Waddell and Burbo
• they are competition favourites, Manly is a club in crisis every other week.

My tip - I think Manly will win!
(go figure)

Hey SER8,

I posted it on Sunday at 11:28 PM

Thread 'Pre-Game Discussion - Storm V Manly [Round 20, 2025]'

Sunday at 11:28 PM

Storm V Manly [Round 20, 2025]


MATCH DAY

Saturday 19 July 2025.

Venue:.... AAMI Park, Melbourne, VIC

Gates Open:.... 6:00pm.

NRL Kick Off Time:.... Melbourne Storm V Manly-Warringah Sea Eagles: ]7:35pm.


TICKETING

VS...

• Jethro
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• Forum: Rugby League Forum

 

[mave]

I'm certain not too many are missing Bozo and the fluffers.

 

[Cochrane]

Seibold track record is hurrendous, can’t mention his name in the same sentence as Bennett period

How many coaches are available that you can name in the same sentence as Bennett.

 

[double hoops]

Coach has showed something to turn things around the last few weeks.

The loss to the Knights was more than a loss, what ever was happening behind the scenes, what was clear is the Manly boys just stank with funk, lack of effort and laziness. Our team could not give two turds.

some laugh at 7 mins but perhaps some hard truths is what many needed.

It's hard to imagine the line speed and hard running the boys were doing against Souths is the same team a couple of weeks later.

And just may be a Coach being under a bit of pressure, just may be that's brought the best out of him too.

Moving your best player to a new position centre if your jobs on the line a gutsy call. But right now it looks a master stroke.

Lodge to starting seemed insanity. He was blowing after a hit up a couple of weeks earlier. But just may be it's going a bit better than the mad house.

I sort of think whilst Seibs is changing things up with Crazy, and making us look nuts. May be a little crazy shake up the halves, wouldn't go astray, switch sides or play em side by side.

I just don't feel like either of our halves has really clicked this year in attack.

doubt Seibs is safe just yet.

We have a solid run of better teams ahead. If he gets the team to knock most of them off he might be.

But if losses flow.

When Manly weild the axe they really weild it, so I doubt any of our current players would be safe should a new coach be coming in, with new ideas, or need to free up some cash.

For mine Seibs has shown he is our best coach since we had Brad Arthur in 2013.

They say Tough times can be your making. Last couple of months something clearly has gone on. Did it build a tougher coach. Has it built tougher team.

Team sure have made it hard for themselves.

Now it is Up against the favourites for the title, Melbourne in Mexico.

Is there a harder game in the league?

 

[XV-1]

It will look like a master stroke if we can win 2 or 3 out of our next 4 games against 3 top 4 teams and the Roosters.

Our last 2 games were against teams entrenched in the bottom 4.

We have done nothing yet.

The next 4 games will show if Seibold thrives or dies.

 

[double hoops]

It will look like a master stroke if we can win 2 or 3 out of our next 4 games against 3 top 4 teams and the Roosters.

Our last 2 games were against teams entrenched in the bottom 4.

We have done nothing yet.

The next 4 games will show if Seibold thrives or dies.

Agree.

 

[bob dylan]

Seibold track record is hurrendous, can’t mention his name in the same sentence as Bennett period

Yep Bennett the legend, though he hasn't won a comp since 2010 - a win strike rate of 55% since then. But went close to winning in 2021 with Souths.

WIsh Manly had grabbed him at stage over the last 10 years.

 

[Mark from Brisbane]

It will look like a master stroke if we can win 2 or 3 out of our next 4 games against 3 top 4 teams and the Roosters.

Our last 2 games were against teams entrenched in the bottom 4.

We have done nothing yet.

The next 4 games will show if Seibold thrives or dies.

I doubt that will happen , but still think there’s a surprise or two coming.

We’ll finish about 12th I think , which isn’t a disaster but also isn’t great.

And no doubt he’ll be sacked , and the cycle will begin again , with no doubt the same result in 2-3 years when that “ next big thing “ doesn’t work either.

Perhaps by then people will start to realise we run a budget operation, and if you pay peanuts , well , you’ll just get monkeys.

 

[XV-1]

I doubt that will happen , but still think there’s a surprise or two coming.

We’ll finish about 12th I think , which isn’t a disaster but also isn’t great.

And no doubt he’ll be sacked , and the cycle will begin again , with no doubt the same result in 2-3 years when that “ next big thing “ doesn’t work either.

Perhaps by then people will start to realise we run a budget operation, and if you pay peanuts , well , you’ll just get monkeys.

12th certainly will be a disaster and Spoony will be gone.

Fingers crossed you are wrong and we at least make the 8. A far cry from our top 4 aspirations at the beginning of the year.
Top 8 will save Seibold thou.

 

[Cochrane]

I'm not sure they will sack him this year, I guess I'll see soon enough if im wrong.

I just feel the club may potentially feel the club was impacted largely by I juries to the engine room, and Seibs had to delicately manage DCE-gate to still get the best out of him without calling DCE for what he is, and the complexities that follow with players who are his mates and those that may not have been too impressed by his antics.

I agree with a lot here though and i have said before that seibs can't coach with authority, and is balancing his coaching with being liked in an effort to keep the dressing room throughout his tenure in an effort to fulfill his contract.