Could it be true?

[Captain Moondog]

Now that Bird has done an ACL Seibold may find new love for Roberts.

 

[Ralphie]

Those saying no to Roberts must remember that the quality of a player also depends on the quality of coach. Roberts and Seibold obviously don't gel. If Des were to get a hold of him you'd see a very different player just like most of our squad are compared to last year

Bennett had little luck with him as well. A big fat no from me.

 

[yokahontas]

There is only a handful of coaches that coach the player and team. Sooky Seibold is not in that handful so Roberts would improve dramatically, especially his defence under Des. In saying that, we should save our coin.

Coaching the player and team, to get the best out of him in a football sense, is one thing...but with Roberts, you’ve also got the substance use/abuse issues to deal with. I’d rather not lump Des/the club with the extra workload - and so far, Roberts is 4/4 in terms of clubs not being able to snap him out of his off-field rubbish. Manly don’t need to be the next on his list.

Getting sacked didn’t change him, public indiscretions being all over the papers didn’t change him, becoming a father didn’t change him, the missus taking the baby and leaving town didn’t change him...what’s it going to take?

 

[joeboy]

Coaching the player and team, to get the best out of him in a football sense, is one thing...but with Roberts, you’ve also got the substance use/abuse issues to deal with. I’d rather not lump Des/the club with the extra workload - and so far, Roberts is 4/4 in terms of clubs not being able to snap him out of his off-field rubbish. Manly don’t need to be the next on his list.

Getting sacked didn’t change him, public indiscretions being all over the papers didn’t change him, becoming a father didn’t change him, the missus taking the baby and leaving town didn’t change him...what’s it going to take?

But, speed kills!!!! Elite player!! Stupid meme!!

Good post, if the club thinks he is the best option, they ain’t looking hard enough.

 

[Heisenberg]

Lol if you think Roberts isnt good enough, Hes Rapid. If Dessie thinks he's worth it then that will do for me. Pretty exciting getting a nsw Centre isn't it?

 

[Loobs]

Coaching the player and team, to get the best out of him in a football sense, is one thing...but with Roberts, you’ve also got the substance use/abuse issues to deal with. I’d rather not lump Des/the club with the extra workload - and so far, Roberts is 4/4 in terms of clubs not being able to snap him out of his off-field rubbish. Manly don’t need to be the next on his list.

Getting sacked didn’t change him, public indiscretions being all over the papers didn’t change him, becoming a father didn’t change him, the missus taking the baby and leaving town didn’t change him...what’s it going to take?

He's really not that different to Barba. You take them on, you get what's coming.

I think there are enough players with talent who would like to live and play on the northern beaches that you don't need to chase repeat offenders...

 

[The better Robbo]

The problem is that if Walker gets clearance to play then that is our top 30 locked in. We have had a top 29 named in February which included Walker. Winterstein was released and Boyle signed. But we have also signed Sam Smith and named him on extended benches since, so that makes 30 with Walker. Unless we got a special leave to sign and name Smith whilst Walker was stood down ?

So to sign someone we will need to release someone from the squad - either permanently or a fringey back to Blacktown. I would imagine the only way we afford someone like Roberts is to release someone on good coin.

Perrett

 

[Chip and Chase]

Perrett

Definitely ?? or are you guessing ??

Wouldn't surprise to be honest, he hasn't really come on. I assume Des is no fan seeing as he let him go 2 years early from Dogs contract to come here in first place

 

[BOZO]

Lol if you think Roberts isnt good enough, Hes Rapid. If Dessie thinks he's worth it then that will do for me. Pretty exciting getting a nsw Centre isn't it?

I agree feathered friend . A player with his experience and speed would only add to our young back line looking at it from a optimistic view

It is every exciting to get a NSW quality centre but when one is pessimistic all they dwell is on the negatives .

A fit Roberts would be an asset to any team

 

[bob dylan]

.but with Roberts, you’ve also got the substance use/abuse issues to deal with. I’d rather not lump Des/the club with the extra workload - and so far, Roberts is 4/4 in terms of clubs not being able to snap him out of his off-field rubbish.

You may well be right but we have taken on Dylan Walker and Moses Suli in recent years, both with issues, both slow learners.

Mad Monday could be something to behold if these 3 were united.

I am sure when players with poor records join teams they have clauses written into their contract about misbehaviour. If Manly pick up Roberts it will be at zero cost (or minimum) to Bronco's.

 

[tookey]

Perrett

Surely no team would take perrett as he is useless

Was hauled off after 10 minutes of the residents game because he was too slow

Maybe is going to the dragons with his bestie Twenty?

 

[The better Robbo]

Definitely ?? or are you guessing ??

Wouldn't surprise to be honest, he hasn't really come on. I assume Des is no fan seeing as he let him go 2 years early from Dogs contract to come here in first place

No knowledge of the fact. He'd be the logical choice but trying to find a taker for perrett would be near impossible unless wyong reserves is looking for a bench prop

 

[Supreme Leader]

Hmmm, Roberts in reggies again this week, maybe someone saw this thread? The plot thickens.

 

[Ranga]

Reading between the lines of what Seibold said on 360, if the Jet asks for a release he will get it.

https://www.foxsports.com.au/nrl/nr...t/news-story/4736af52069e99591880a0fae8d8716c

 

[HappilyManly]

JR is throwing another hissy fit like he did at the Titans

He wants Bennett but Bennett said no

 

[Ryan]

So are people here suggesting Dessie doesn't have it in himself to get the best out of James Roberts, mentor and nurture him (maybe even develop him?).

Seems conflicting opinions here. One minute, Des can do anything. Our cultures amazing now.

Next minute, Walkers a dickhead, Roberts is a dickhead, and they should be out.

So what is it? Can Des pull a Bennett and get the most out of Roberts both on and off the field, or is Des out of his element, in player development and cultural shifts.

 

[joeboy]

Des isn’t the constant In that equation. Roberts is.

 

[frank stokes]

Gus reckons on 360 that JTJ doesn't perform whenever anything unsettles him (coach, contract, ingrown toenail etc) and he has to have everything going his way...

I'm not a Gus fan but I seem to recall that he knows JTJ pretty well (could be wrong but reckon I remember hearing or reading it somewhere)... my point being that if he is as precious and precocious as Gus is hinting then there's no bloody way I want him within the same postcode of our side... super talented or not (and for the record he defended awesomely in SOO last year)...

 

[ALinda]

So are people here suggesting Dessie doesn't have it in himself to get the best out of James Roberts, mentor and nurture him (maybe even develop him?).

Seems conflicting opinions here. One minute, Des can do anything. Our cultures amazing now.

Next minute, Walkers a dickhead, Roberts is a dickhead, and they should be out.

So what is it? Can Des pull a Bennett and get the most out of Roberts both on and off the field, or is Des out of his element, in player development and cultural shifts.

Not at all. This isn't about Des, its all about Roberts (as @joeboy states).

There's only so much Des could do to get the best out of him but its up to Roberts - he has to want to be mentored, nurtured, developed, cultured, coached - and he hasn't been showing any desire whatsoever.

 

[Scorpio]

@Ryan

You were the one complaining about a 'drinking culture' at Manly last year.

These are some of JTJ's publicised alcohol related incidents while playing for the Broncos alone (after being sacked from 2 clubs for alcohol rated incidents previously).

How do these compare?

2016:
https://mobile.abc.net.au/news/2016...-facing-nrl-probe-into-hotel-incident/7760348

2017:
https://www.couriermail.com.au/spor...m/news-story/86a870238582f6c41298eb6c643194bf

2019:
https://www.canberratimes.com.au/story/6005674/roberts-escapes-sanction-for-drunken-photo/