TERRIFIC we can be like Cronulla and have an inspirational origin forward. But heres a stat that may shock you. Gallen only played 9 games for Cronulla last year. No wonder they're jack of himWill be close to player of the series again in SOO in 2015 - the toughest footy arena in the world - obviously a few ppl on here are soccer fans just passing the time....how old were Menzies/Price & Civenoceva....37- 38 - if you are playing at a level good enough to lead your state & dominate there - just maybe you can help an NRL club???
Any 1 player will only partially fix the problems , another part being devalued is the quality juniors currently in the system who will make impact in the next 2 years.
Age is not the issue when it comes to quality leaders who are scarce....expected more abuse about Gallens character ect - his playing ability will not be questioned by anyone who understands the fundamentals of a tough, competitive rugby league player
And he's an inspirational leader whose SOO record as captain is how many series wins again???TERRIFIC we can be like Cronulla and have an inspirational origin forward. But heres a stat that may shock you. Gallen only played 9 games for Cronulla last year. No wonder they're jack of him
he hasn't played more than 16 games since 2011
I missed it. Thanks for the clarification. For what it's worth Gallen is a no for mine.BTW my ^^^^^ post was heavily laced with sarcasm in case anyone missed that
Be like Cronulla because 1 player signs with Manly....great point.....also agree an inspirational leader yet we dont want that - how stupid to suggest we need more inspiration....Heres an amazing shocking stat that may stun you - Ben Kennedy was constantly injured previously to joining Manly & made a slight difference its fair to say....now THATS sarcasmTERRIFIC we can be like Cronulla and have an inspirational origin forward. But heres a stat that may shock you. Gallen only played 9 games for Cronulla last year. No wonder they're jack of him
he hasn't played more than 16 games since 2011
Did you actually read my post? I said hes an inspirational origin forward did I say anywhere he was an inspirational club forward? No. that's my problem with him. hes put in for origin but I care more about my club. The year before he came to us BK played 16 games. That's a few more than Gallens 9. He was also 31 when he left the knights not 34. Worlds apart in my view.Be like Cronulla because 1 player signs with Manly....great point.....also agree an inspirational leader yet we dont want that - how stupid to suggest we need more inspiration....Heres an amazing shocking stat that may stun you - Ben Kennedy was constantly injured previously to joining Manly & made a slight difference its fair to say....now THATS sarcasm
If your an inspirational origin leader against the best players in the world & in the toughest arena in the world its fair to believe you can lead a club side & Gallen is the type who will give his all if he was to run out for the Engadine Dragons - determination is in his blood & it has slowly but surely been draining from the Manly culture in recent times.Did you actually read my post? I said hes an inspirational origin forward did I say anywhere he was an inspirational club forward? No. that's my problem with him. hes put in for origin but I care more about my club. The year before he came to us BK played 16 games. That's a few more than Gallens 9. He was also 31 when he left the knights not 34. Worlds apart in my view.
The big problem I see with gallen is that he tries to do too much. He takes the ball away from halves and IMO they operate as less of a team when he's there because there is less shared responsibility.If your an inspirational origin leader against the best players in the world & in the toughest arena in the world its fair to believe you can lead a club side & Gallen is the type who will give his all if he was to run out for the Engadine Dragons - determination is in his blood & it has slowly but surely been draining from the Manly culture in recent times.
I must confess - its hardly the ideal solution & as I stated earlier 100% prefer him to timewarp back to 24yo....problem is - these players are rare & to fight back to the edge we have gained over the past decade - its players of this attitude that players feed off - just quietly I think a youngster we have already in Jake will be THAT player in time.
The big problem I see with gallen is that he tries to do too much. He takes the ball away from halves and IMO they operate as less of a team when he's there because there is less shared responsibility.
2009: with gallen 12.5% win percentage, overall win 20.8%
2010: with gallen 30.43% win percentage, overall win 29.12%
2011: with gallen 30.00% win percentage, overall win 29.12%
2012: with gallen 50% win percentage, overall win 52%
2013: with gallen 50% win percentage, overall win 58.33%
2014: with gallen 22.22% win percentage, overall win 26.3%
The stats would suggest Cronulla play better without gallen than with him.
Not meant to be a history forum but to break it down - the most recent series....And he's an inspirational leader whose SOO record as captain is how many series wins again???
Team | P | W | L | PD | Pts |
---|---|---|---|---|---|
7 | 6 | 1 | 99 | 14 | |
8 | 6 | 2 | 66 | 14 | |
7 | 6 | 1 | 54 | 14 | |
9 | 5 | 3 | 37 | 11 | |
9 | 5 | 4 | 95 | 10 | |
7 | 4 | 3 | 49 | 10 | |
9 | 5 | 4 | 42 | 10 | |
9 | 5 | 4 | -14 | 10 | |
7 | 3 | 4 | 17 | 8 | |
8 | 4 | 4 | -14 | 8 | |
8 | 3 | 5 | -55 | 8 | |
8 | 4 | 4 | -60 | 8 | |
8 | 3 | 4 | 17 | 7 | |
8 | 3 | 5 | -25 | 6 | |
7 | 2 | 5 | -55 | 6 | |
7 | 1 | 6 | -87 | 4 | |
8 | 1 | 7 | -166 | 4 |