If Walsh is good enough, what do you do with the 700k we are paying Fogarty. There is a salary cap - that is why Canberra would not offer 3 years to a player Ricky " wanted " to keep.
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If Walsh is good enough, what do you do with the 700k we are paying Fogarty. There is a salary cap - that is why Canberra would not offer 3 years to a player Ricky " wanted " to keep.
Honestly, in your opinion, has the club ever done anything positive?
Or even remotely borderline ok?
Pretty simple walsh is not going to be a 700k player in 2 years. We could let Fogarty go (in 3rd) two new clubs desperate for a veteran half. You seem to be spinning the raiders line. Salary Cap will be increasing Schuster off the books, Jake with due respect will be getting less money if he signs on. I'm just not that concerned with the cap.
double hoops
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Has Walsh got the Flegg team looking at a premiership?
Yes, signed Ola, Koula, Garrick, Saab, Hoppa are all positives in the last couple of years.
Cheer squad boys need to be able to debate signings and their worth.
I hear from Mestrov and Spoony that Joey IS the future half at Manly, yet we are now telling him to wait around till he is 23.
Since you are so smart - why?
God
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As to why, its because he's no where near good enough yet, nor does he have the experience or the body to support playing there against men at this stage. Will he get there, maybe but best to build the tool kit before throwing him under the bus
Exactly, the tried and tested method.
Bringing young players into first grade and then dropping them due to not being quite up to it, often doesn't do a lot for their confidence or development.
Ideally when they are nearly ready you give them a few runs as injury replacements. When they get their chance you want them to be good enough to hold it, such as Lehi has done.
The plan for Walsh is probably to give him a few looks at first grade next year and the following, when he'll be 19 and 20. Where he goes from there will be down to how he performs in those games.
Always a little trickier for a half, forwards can be given an extended run as benchies before becoming starters, but halves need to be ready to control the team for 80m, and aren't often picked on the bench either.
Isn’t Walsh an only 18?
19 next month.
At least we know where you will stand for the next three years....
Considering his development, which is just starting, who is to say he is not a 6 to Fogarty? Considering Brooks is contracted until 2027 that would be the same as if Fogarty was signed on 2 year deal re place opening up.
Regarding the salary cap I posted this before.
We currently have 11 of our top 30 players even contracted to start the 2027 season. Lets throw both the turbos in there and we have 13 players....and that is with the cap going up.
Now with expansion there is of course a risk of him being poached but the idea that the salary cap or players "holding him back" is not justified
Heckenberg
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Onitoni looks like he’s gonna be a solid dude. Wouldn’t be surprised to see him at fullback or centre.
I seem to think that this will be the case as to how he is brought into the team. Walsh plays on the left as is Brooks. Walsh replacing Brooks in 2027 makes sense to me as playing 6 he won’t have that added pressure.
Fogarty can still steer the ship for another year while Walsh gets some 1st grade reps under his belt.
This looks to be a better way to bring him in
I would have preferred only 2 years for Fogarty, as would the club also, obviously.
I'm looking at this signing as a sort of insurance policy.
The club thinks Walsh is the future, they want Walsh to be the future. Clearly, they think he is at least 1-2 years away from being 1st grade ready.
I'm really excited to see how our "weapons" can play in a more controlled environment with an experienced, steady half.
Jamal started his career at the Titans and was in and out of 1st grade there until Ricky got him and turned him into an accomplished player
I am curious to see how the Jamal and Brooks combination will go under Seibold
Stewbojevic
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We could easily get a Super League team to chip in for his last year with the bonus of an extra year if it comes to it. We went to 3 years to get the deal done.
Honestly, given the lack of quality halves on the market and how many teams are in dire need of a guy like Fogarty, I’m pretty happy we got this done at that price.
Honestly, given the lack of quality halves on the market and how many teams are in dire need of a guy like Fogarty, I’m pretty happy we got this done at that price.
manlyfan76
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Hopefully we sign a few more players by the end of the season beyond 2027 considering there will be additional clubs competing for same pool of first graders.
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