Keppie

[Under the Sticks]

Keppie's fine, he hasn't dominated yet mostly due to the oft-mentioned errors but he isn't far off putting it all together.
Anyway with Paseka gone we need him right now, and I'll back him to get the job done v Old Grumpy JWH and all his very expensive poultry mates.

Maybe his new nickname should be “Godot” because we sure have been waiting a while for him to put together consistent disciplined performances.

 

[Adz]

Keppie is signed for another 3 years and I would guess is going to cost more over those years.
Maybe Seibold does not think he is doing enough to warrant taking up more of the salary cap for what he gives?
Just a thought....

 

[HoldenV8]

Darcy was a great prop at his best.

For mine the best I ever saw out of Darcy Lussick was the 4 weeks after his mum died. He channelled his energy into his game was and damn near unstoppable.

Then he got injured and when he came back, the momentum he had was gone and it was the same old Darcy.

 

[Marto1970]

I don't mind Keppie (nor Bullemor for that matter) but I would like to know why the closer Keppie gets to the tryline, the weaker his grip on the footy gets.

I think they call it Premature

 

[bob dylan]

I like Keppie. Well the good one.

I hate the stupid errors, like everyone else.

75 games of NRL and 25 years old and he still feels like a work in progress.

Now is his time to step up and become a leader in this pack. All we needs is 30 minutes a week.

 

[XV-1]

You really are a little person ...

Clean up in isle 4

It would seem nothing to say except dribbling.

How about some Woody words of wisdom on what Keppie can do to be a better player. Or is he perfect in your eyes already?

 

[Tragic Eagle]

I am a fan but he frustrated yesterday. The high tackle was lazy.

 

[Eagle 1]

Unfortunately, we don’t have a lot of depth so might need to stick with him. Toff did next to nothing tonight .

Keppie and Sipley just need to cart it up solidly with no errors hopefully, do this and the pressure on Lodge to take it to them isn't all on him.

 

[Seagles68]

Keppie to me is another Darcy Lussick.

Has a lot of talent as a front rower, but is prone to making dumb handling errors and giving away dumb penalties.

If he could cut those errors and penalties out of his game, or even just cut them by half......

At the risk of sounding like a contrarian, I think Keppie was a bit unlucky last night with his 2 "mistakes". I watched it closely this morning and the high tackle was one of those where the arm comes up off the ball. Sure, it's a higher risk when you go near the chest but I think he a was a bit unlucky. And the dropped ball near their line was more a strip than a simple dropped ball. The second tackler had a good grip on the ball and Keppie was still struggling to go forward.

I'm not saying he doesn't make mistakes but coz he now has a reputation, every thing gets scrutinised and every error highlighted. If you look at it from the perspective of putting pressure on our defence, think of how many 6 agains Jake gives away. But we don't want Jake dropped.

Anyway, I'm still hoping he still has his best years in front of him coz he's got the grunt we need, he just needs some polish. If only Seibs could hit him with a can of Brasso in the off season, he'd be a great asset.

 

[Rafferty]

I don’t think the high shot should of even been penalised, didn’t think he made contact with head, looked like it come up off the ball then across the shoulder, at best, pretty soft.

 

[Seagles68]

Keppie and Sipley just need to cart it up solidly with no errors hopefully, do this and the pressure on Lodge to take it to them isn't all on him.

I look forward to the day that the whole pack plays as one and take the pressure of my blood.

 

[manlyfan76]

At the risk of sounding like a contrarian, I think Keppie was a bit unlucky last night with his 2 "mistakes". I watched it closely this morning and the high tackle was one of those where the arm comes up off the ball. Sure, it's a higher risk when you go near the chest but I think he a was a bit unlucky. And the dropped ball near their line was more a strip than a simple dropped ball. The second tackler had a good grip on the ball and Keppie was still struggling to go forward.

I'm not saying he doesn't make mistakes but coz he now has a reputation, every thing gets scrutinised and every error highlighted. If you look at it from the perspective of putting pressure on our defence, think of how many 6 agains Jake gives away. But we don't want Jake dropped.

Anyway, I'm still hoping he still has his best years in front of him coz he's got the grunt we need, he just needs some polish. If only Seibs could hit him with a can of Brasso in the off season, he'd be a great asset.

The drop ball was all on Sean.
FMD

 

[LeonardCohen]

I don’t mind Keppie and I probably lean more towards wanting the club to keep him, but…

His ceiling is average NRL bench prop forward, not rep star. He just does not have the leg speed to be anything but an honest first grader.

It perplexes me when he is spoken of as some sort of beast that is on the cusp of greatness. He can provide a bone cruncher in defence but he is less than dynamic with the ball in hand. Usually he trundles up slowly before being dumped on his back. We can afford to carry him on the bench but that’s it.

 

[Seagles68]

The drop ball was all on Sean.
FMD

And I said FMD when I heard it (I wasn't watching), I'm just saying it wasn't simply a fumble fingers, it had a fair bit of help coming out. It happens.

 

[TheSoaringEagle2023]

At the risk of sounding like a contrarian, I think Keppie was a bit unlucky last night with his 2 "mistakes". I watched it closely this morning and the high tackle was one of those where the arm comes up off the ball. Sure, it's a higher risk when you go near the chest but I think he a was a bit unlucky. And the dropped ball near their line was more a strip than a simple dropped ball. The second tackler had a good grip on the ball and Keppie was still struggling to go forward.

I'm not saying he doesn't make mistakes but coz he now has a reputation, every thing gets scrutinised and every error highlighted. If you look at it from the perspective of putting pressure on our defence, think of how many 6 agains Jake gives away. But we don't want Jake dropped.

Anyway, I'm still hoping he still has his best years in front of him coz he's got the grunt we need, he just needs some polish. If only Seibs could hit him with a can of Brasso in the off season, he'd be a great asset.

Very similar to Jack Hethrington.

 

[Seagles68]

Very similar to Jack Hethrington.

Yeah, that seems fair.

 

[castle eagle]

I don’t mind him, but yes he can turn a game the wrong way.

On that front though, I thought the Garrick /Croker ‘no try’ was far more serious on the game’s trajectory than anything Keppie did or didn’t do. His trademark mistakes in the first half tonight did not lead to points down the other end.

If Garrick had scored his second try, it could have ended up more like a 30-8 or 30-12 result, if not by a bigger margin.

you could also say that about the koula break then fumble, that was a try gone begging also

 

[castle eagle]

Tough, rugged player with flip of the coin silly penalties and I disagree about a high error rate, but totally agree he seems to up with drops that turn the games momentum and today was exactly that.
I have seen a few games when he has cut players in half and I mstaked him for Jake.
Also a few charges and quick plays to win Manly momentum
Seems like he over thinks his role which should be simple ugly, rugged old fashioned footy to intimidate the opposition

you could be right, but his timing of the stupid penalties/dropped balls is perfect....
for the opposition.

 

[TheSoaringEagle2023]

Yeah, that seems fair.

Both good hard nosed players, but make mistakes at crucial moments of the game.
Under someone like Bellamy or Bennett, I can see Keppe thriving under that kind of coach.

 

[HoldenV8]

At the risk of sounding like a contrarian, I think Keppie was a bit unlucky last night with his 2 "mistakes". I watched it closely this morning and the high tackle was one of those where the arm comes up off the ball. Sure, it's a higher risk when you go near the chest but I think he a was a bit unlucky. And the dropped ball near their line was more a strip than a simple dropped ball. The second tackler had a good grip on the ball and Keppie was still struggling to go forward.

I'm not saying he doesn't make mistakes but coz he now has a reputation, every thing gets scrutinised and every error highlighted. If you look at it from the perspective of putting pressure on our defence, think of how many 6 agains Jake gives away. But we don't want Jake dropped.

Anyway, I'm still hoping he still has his best years in front of him coz he's got the grunt we need, he just needs some polish. If only Seibs could hit him with a can of Brasso in the off season, he'd be a great asset.

Like I said, I do think Keppie is a good front rower and if our prop rotation going into next year is led by Jake, Paseka, Keppie and Lodge with Sips, Bull and Aloiai also thereabouts, then I think we're doing well (for mine, Schuster will move to lock with Brooks here). But even if last nights mistakes were more circumstance than anything else, its still him it happens to more than most isn't it. He's got to find a way to combat that.

As for Jake ... yep, 100% agree. Ever since the 6 again became a thing in the NRL, Jake is arguably our most consistent offender, usually being inside the 10. And also agreed that you won't see him dropped. But then, our defence up the middle doesn't turn to whenever Keppie is off the field like it does when Jake isn't out there either. But yes, in the same manner as Keppie cutting out the mistakes, Jake needs to cut out giving away so many 6 again's because they too end up hurting.