Lehi the 1 Turbo centre

[Disco]

Love Turbo but I think a 2 year $500k extension would be generous.

Personally I think that is beyond absurd but all just opinions.

750k is great andbprobably pushing it as is.

 

[nightster]

I reckon 2 years at $700-750k per season is about right @ centre

 

[Cochrane]

I'd wait and see how he handles centre for a while by way of injuries/games played. Cause im already thinking more around the 650k-690k.

 

[silvereagle]

Personally I think that is beyond absurd but all just opinions.

750k is great andbprobably pushing it as is.

I think that is likely going to be the magic number..... but over 3 years and incorporating 26. So under this deal the club would get an immediate $500k cap relief next year and Turbo picks up an additional 2 year tenure beyond his existing 26 contract term. How he goes in the centres for the rest of this season will determine that number. Win win for both sides.

 

[Disco]

I think that is likely going to be the magic number..... but over 3 years and incorporating 26. So under this deal the club would get an immediate $500k cap relief next year and Turbo picks up an additional 2 year tenure beyond his existing 26 contract term. How he goes in the centres for the rest of this season will determine that number. Win win for both sides.

Next year will remain as is IMO.

750kish from 27

 

[Budgie]

Is all this salary guessing to do with the super coach thingy? I don't really understand the point of it.

 

[Disco]

Is all this salary guessing to do with the super coach thingy? I don't really understand the point of it.

Ha no.

It's a salary cap era thing. Effective use of your cap is perhaps the most single important factor in have a successful season.

 

[silvereagle]

Next year will remain as is IMO.

750kish from 27

I think the 27 and 28 extension is an easy negotiation. The challenge will be to address the current existing 26 contract tenure at $1.2m. If I was advising the club and Turbo I would be proposing a reduction in the existing 26 deal and offset against a +2 year extension beyond that 26 year. So turbo gives up lets say $500k next year in exchange for an additional 2 years at $750k. So he "trades" $1.2m next year against $2.2m next 3 years. Club gets that immediate $500k cap saving next year plus downgrades his contract down to $750k for the additional 2 years. Lots of numbers here but that will be the negotiation......particularly if the centre move is successful.

 

[Disco]

I think the 27 and 28 extension is an easy negotiation. The challenge will be to address the current existing 26 contract tenure at $1.2m. If I was advising the club and Turbo I would be proposing a reduction in the existing 26 deal and offset against a +2 year extension beyond that 26 year. So turbo gives up lets say $500k next year in exchange for an additional 2 years at $750k. So he "trades" $1.2m next year against $2.2m next 3 years. Club gets that immediate $500k cap saving next year plus downgrades his contract down to $750k for the additional 2 years. Lots of numbers here but that will be the negotiation......particularly if the centre move is successful.

Haha I get that from the clubs perspective and maybe, maybe there is a chance that the NRL sign off (though wouldnt hold my breath) but why oh why would Tom sign that?

750k is likely to be a base for 27/28, he would certainly get more elsewhere.

So why give up 500k next year?

People are massively playing down Toms impact and ability based on short down turn in form.

He'd get a million elsewhere no problem and if we can lock him in at 750k in 27/28 its a coup.

26 is what it is

 

[manly al]

Ha no.

It's a salary cap era thing. Effective use of your cap is perhaps the most single important factor in have a successful season.

Being able to attract or sign the fit for purpose , good level key positional players is the other side of the equation and that is not going to be a given .
Especially with the two new sides to form up soon
Depending how Fogarty or Walsh [ and could include Large ] shape up and keeping Koula, Lehi and would think Garrick over the mid , longer term should ensure a more then competitive back line to challenge .
A quality prop and 13 still looks like the highest priority . Simpkin may have to mainly suffice for whatever time as the i st choice 9 .
Not too sure how quickly some of the younger forwards coming into the system now , including those young hookers can progress but again finding an influential prop and 13 , high on the order list on present indications

 

[Cochrane]

You may be right, but I baulk at your assertion that clubs would pay tom 1m.. its a massive risk to impact your salary cap like it has done for manly for how long now?

 

[manly al]

I think the 27 and 28 extension is an easy negotiation. The challenge will be to address the current existing 26 contract tenure at $1.2m. If I was advising the club and Turbo I would be proposing a reduction in the existing 26 deal and offset against a +2 year extension beyond that 26 year. So turbo gives up lets say $500k next year in exchange for an additional 2 years at $750k. So he "trades" $1.2m next year against $2.2m next 3 years. Club gets that immediate $500k cap saving next year plus downgrades his contract down to $750k for the additional 2 years. Lots of numbers here but that will be the negotiation......particularly if the centre move is successful.

Good suggestion but not sure if an N R L club can alter an exiting contract to enable a more club favorable or flexible deal ongoing .
Probably only way if there would be some restrictions on a Turbo 1 . 2 mil - 26 contract arrangement to modify, and he would be agreeable to average out on a 3 year 2. 2 mil deal , to then have a contract value of 500 K for 27 and 28 .
Not out of the question but would requite a degree of goodwill on Turbo 's part and a reasonably sympathetic N R L.
But who knows with the way some revised or fickle natured deals are proposed or accepted by all parties these days or for some time now

 

[manlyfan76]

He'd be a marquee signing for a new franchise

 

[Rafferty]

To many hypotheticals, Toms under contract and owes the club nothing, in fact his obligation is to do the best he can for himself, so why would he genuinely want to entertain the thought of a taking a pay cut, now or ever?

Yes I know he recently offered to……from the safety of knowing his under contract and the NRL would most likely never allow it. That made it easy to look like the good guy, and I’m not saying his not, a good guy that is, but everyone has to earn what they can, Toms no different, seriously, ask yourself if you would take a pay cut so your boss can hire more talent, that’s right, I don’t think so.

We’ll see how this plays out soon enough, I imagine Tom will have suitors looking for his services, provided he remains injury free. Maybe a fair bit hangs on how the club handles Jake and Ben’s situations. There’s a lot to weight up, in saying that, all I’d like to see, is Tom finish the season without injury and playing the type of footy we need him too.

 

[Disco]

You may be right, but I baulk at your assertion that clubs would pay tom 1m.. its a massive risk to impact your salary cap like it has done for manly for how long now?

You don't think Perth, in need of a marquee would go that far?

 

[Budgie]

Ha no.

It's a salary cap era thing. Effective use of your cap is perhaps the most single important factor in have a successful season.

OK then, I'd like Tommy Turbo for 700k thanks Alex

 

[madmax]

To many hypotheticals, Toms under contract and owes the club nothing, in fact his obligation is to do the best he can for himself, so why would he genuinely want to entertain the thought of a taking a pay cut, now or ever?

Yes I know he recently offered to……from the safety of knowing his under contract and the NRL would most likely never allow it. That made it easy to look like the good guy, and I’m not saying his not, a good guy that is, but everyone has to earn what they can, Toms no different, seriously, ask yourself if you would take a pay cut so your boss can hire more talent, that’s right, I don’t think so.

We’ll see how this plays out soon enough, I imagine Tom will have suitors looking for his services, provided he remains injury free. Maybe a fair bit hangs on how the club handles Jake and Ben’s situations. There’s a lot to weight up, in saying that, all I’d like to see, is Tom finish the season without injury and playing the type of footy we need him too.

Well Turbo being constantly injured every year whilst still getting a million dollar salary with others having to step up is one reason he does owe Manly! His obligation is to perform & earn the money he gets paid not sit out games due to some stupidity like the Corso decision. The fact Manly has stood by him with the injuries all this time is another reason. How can you say his obligation is to look after himself. Like I said his obligation is to ensure he’s doing what he’s paid to do. If he doesn’t like the next offer he has a right to look elsewhere. It’s Manly’s obligation to be diligent & ensure success not have to bend over to make players feel wanted. With all due respect, Turbo nor Jurbo are worth anything close to what they’re currently being paid. If another club is willing to pay them what they expect then so be it. The club needs to get away from paying overs for zero profit!