As you can see guys, Orford's a protected species on this site. I have said in all my postings re this game that Orford had an excellent first half and an ordinary second and most have agreed with this proposition as did Hasler. I've also posted that his last three games have been a marked improvement from his earlier efforts. Unless you say that he's just great all the time and that he's won us all games this season and last on this site, then you're pilloried as someone who has sucked on lemons all your life. I think all of you Orford disciples should just sit down and view the replays and you would see a few warts in his game. A captain and chief playmaker should never 'overcook' plays. Adapt and change to the game that's in front of you is what's required.