[Resurrected] Nicho Hynes

[wombatgc]

Sharks re-signed Kennedy so pretty clear cut that Hynes is going there as a 6.

I don't think Manly should be spending a lot of coin on outside backs. Maybe depth/squad players but certainly not a 1.8m player. We should be looking at Jayden Sua.

Any chance of prying away Jack Williams from the Sharks. I don’t think he gets enough game time.

 

[wombatgc]

Snake you are a man in the know... would koula be this type by next season?

I see the Blacktown game against the Bears (Rorters) is on Fox at 1.20pm Sunday. I will be watching for exactly the question you posed above @Kalvin . Also wouldn’t hurt to see what young Rorters that may be in the situation @Snake described....behind incumbent established players. Tafua named in the centres should be interesting as well.

 

[globaleagle]

I have heard that Hynes met with Des not long before this announcement but the Sharks offer was too good to refuse. 600k is good coin! I don't think we were ever really in the running but at least we showed interest and he gave us the opportunity to meet and put our offer forward.

Can't believe you didn't meet with him and said you had an "in" with the judiciary panel!

this one's on you!

 

[Woodsie]

I don't know about that Woodsie, there's a lot of other fullbacks ahead of him, and I reckon they will look him for 5/8 as they've just resigned Will Kennedy.

Even still .. $600k is chump change for a top line half or fullback ... one that can play both at his level are rare ..

When you consider blokes like Dugan, DZW, Moylan etc etc are on about $800k and blokes like Hunt and Milford are on a million ... even our Walker was on close to 6ook before his troubles ..

Still think he is a bargain ..

 

[40 years an eagle]

Tafua named in the centres should be interesting as well.

He has been at centre since he came back.

 

[frank stokes]

Even still .. $600k is chump change for a top line half or fullback ... one that can play both at his level are rare ..

When you consider blokes like Dugan, DZW, Moylan etc etc are on about $800k and blokes like Hunt and Milford are on a million ... even our Walker was on close to 6ook before his troubles ..

Still think he is a bargain ..

Don't forget though that blokes like Milford, Taylor, Hunt etc. all had break-out seasons similar to Nicho (or even better) prior to signing those big paydays...

$600K may be a good deal, or it may not... hard to tell with a guy that has only started 2 or 3 games and is playing in the Storm system...

personally I would be very concerned with how Mr Croft has turned out once released from the luxury of playing at the Storm...

 

[rosco]

I see the Blacktown game against the Bears (Rorters) is on Fox at 1.20pm Sunday. I will be watching for exactly the question you posed above @Kalvin . Also wouldn’t hurt to see what young Rorters that may be in the situation @Snake described....behind incumbent established players. Tafua named in the centres should be interesting as well.

Surprised that Suli isn't having a run to get some match fitness.

 

[Stewbojevic]

Don't forget though that blokes like Milford, Taylor, Hunt etc. all had break-out seasons similar to Nicho (or even better) prior to signing those big paydays...

$600K may be a good deal, or it may not... hard to tell with a guy that has only started 2 or 3 games and is playing in the Storm system...

personally I would be very concerned with how Mr Croft has turned out once released from the luxury of playing at the Storm...

A couple of key differences with Hynes compared to Croft:

• Croft never played this well at Melbourne
• Bellamy never publicly stated that he wanted to keep Croft like he has with Hynes

 

[IQofalimabean]

Manly is paying 550k for suli makes the sharks deal look great.

 

[Woodsie]

Don't forget though that blokes like Milford, Taylor, Hunt etc. all had break-out seasons similar to Nicho (or even better) prior to signing those big paydays...

$600K may be a good deal, or it may not... hard to tell with a guy that has only started 2 or 3 games and is playing in the Storm system...

personally I would be very concerned with how Mr Croft has turned out once released from the luxury of playing at the Storm...

Sounds like a cue for a Schodringer's cat story .. you are correct in saying it may or may not be value .. but you take a punt on any player when they change clubs ..

 

[jamesie]

Surprised that Suli isn't having a run to get some match fitness.

Yes, and also Tippytoes

 

[frank stokes]

A couple of key differences with Hynes compared to Croft:

• Croft never played this well at Melbourne
• Bellamy never publicly stated that he wanted to keep Croft like he has with Hynes

Croft had some pretty good games for the Storm - and Bellamy thought he was the next Cooper Cronk at one point...

Croft stars as Storm flog Knights - Nine Wide World of Sports

Stand-in halfback Brodie Croft has starred with three tries in Melbourne's 44-12 win over Newcastle at McDo...

wwos.nine.com.au

 

[Snake]

Snake you are a man in the know... would koula be this type by next season?

Still pretty raw...not game to say no but it would surprise me. Most of his press is about his speed rather than his overall ability. He still has plenty to learn.

 

[Snake]

Manly is paying 550k for suli makes the sharks deal look great.

According to the Herald but that amount seems a little high to me.

 

[frank stokes]

According to the Herald but that amount seems a little high to me.

he came here as a "last-chance saloon" and then we renewed his contract after scraping into the 8...

you have to wonder at what point we went "WOW!!! You Mr Suli are worth an extra $400K per year!!!"

 

[Peter C]

According to the Herald but that amount seems a little high to me.

I don't think it's that high, possibly around $450K

he came here as a "last-chance saloon" and then we renewed his contract after scraping into the 8...

you have to wonder at what point we went "WOW!!! You Mr Suli are worth an extra $400K per year!!!"

Suli had a good year in 2019, we didn't really scrape in , we came in equal fifth with Parra and may have even snuck into the top four but for Turbo missing most of the second part of the year and even then we were robbed in that semi against Souths.
His contract was up and he rejected a much larger offer from the Dragons to stay, around $650k, having said all of that, may have better for all parties if he took the Dragons' offer.

 

[Snake]

he came here as a "last-chance saloon" and then we renewed his contract after scraping into the 8...

you have to wonder at what point we went "WOW!!! You Mr Suli are worth an extra $400K per year!!!"

Very premature signing. Two good games and we offered him marquee money. Terrible recruitment.

 

[Dee Why Eagle]

Very premature signing. Two good games and we offered him marquee money. Terrible recruitment.

At the time, we were in a bit of a hole & was reported that St Merge were offering Suli significantly more

 

[manly al]

At the time, we were in a bit of a hole & was reported that St Merge were offering Suli significantly more

Or so his manager claimed at the time but Dragons were struggling for strike players at the time so probably valid . Still think that Suli is being undervalued somewhat in recent times , hasn 't given value for money but still think that he can offer something quite worthwhile if again used properly with some decent early ball and opportunity . As i have mentioned previously , my main concern for some time now has been him being quite injury prone with a lot of time on the sidelines . Anyway while he is with Manly , just have to expect or try to get the best out of him

 

[Eagles4Life]

At the time, we were in a bit of a hole & was reported that St Merge were offering Suli significantly more

Yes we were in a bit of a hole. I would have very happy to see Suli go to St Merge though. He has never been a consistent NRL player, and I think his best days as a centre are behind him. He also isnt suited to playing on the edge, and I really wonder if we can somehow incorporate him in our prop rotation. But looking at our prop depth I think that would turn out to be a waste of time as well.

I think we should let him go to a team looking for a power centre, but I cant see who would take him now. If we could do a swap out with Dufty for the rest of the season (before August 1st), things could work well for both clubs. If we strike a deal to pay some of his freight next season, and also secure Dufty for two years on reasonable coin, we have gone a long way to solving our fullback depth issue. Plus Dufty would be another handy backline utility player, who has genuine strike ability, from anywhere on the field. I would have loved to have got Hynes back but that isnt happening unfortunately. Thoughts?