Pre-Game Raiders V Manly [Round 23, 2025]

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08 Aug 2025 08:00 PM


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Struggling to think of a less inspiring Manly lineup I've seen in my time as a supporter. Seibold trying to show Canberra what they missed out on by naming Schoupp? Waddell and Chee Kam might possibly be the worst 2nd row pairing in NRL history. Navale still can't get a run while we are down about 5 forwards. Talau in the centres over Garrick is a good move but the rest is baffling.

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Even with Hoppa out, it's a decent backline on paper. I'm looking forward to seeing TT2 have a full game at centre.

Waddell and Chee Kam as our starting backrow is ......... interesting. Poor old Chee Kam will be out on his feet after 10 mins. I'm not sure even he remembers when he last played 1st Gde.

And Navale misses again??!!

Shoupp on the bench?? Well, let's not waste him on the bench. I'd like to see him rip in to them in the backrow. He's definitely got a bit mongrel in him.

They could shock ........ or we'll get smashed.
 
Even with Hoppa out, it's a decent backline on paper. I'm looking forward to seeing TT2 have a full game at centre.

Waddell and Chee Kam as our starting backrow is ......... interesting. Poor old Chee Kam will be out on his feet after 10 mins. I'm not sure even he remembers when he last played 1st Gde.

And Navale misses again??!!

Shoupp on the bench?? Well, let's not waste him on the bench. I'd like to see him rip in to them in the backrow. He's definitely got a bit mongrel in him.

They could shock ........ or we'll get smashed.
I payed close attention to Mck Saturday night when he was playing nsw cup and he looked badly gassed
 
Someone tell me this isn't a better, realistic, lineup:

Backline as is

8. Lodge
9. Simpkin
10. TKO
11. Waddell
12. Bullemor
13. Jake
14. Tevaga
15. Sipley
16. Navale
17. MCK

If Navale's issue is that he can't do big minutes, why are we not moving Tevaga to the middle? Seriously, he kills all momentum at hooker. He should be a 20 min fill in there, and then could sub off Navale for 20 mins after.
 
Someone tell me this isn't a better, realistic, lineup:

Backline as is

8. Lodge
9. Simpkin
10. TKO
11. Waddell
12. Bullemor
13. Jake
14. Tevaga
15. Sipley
16. Navale
17. MCK

If Navale's issue is that he can't do big minutes, why are we not moving Tevaga to the middle? Seriously, he kills all momentum at hooker. He should be a 20 min fill in there, and then could sub off Navale for 20 mins after.
I thought Jazz was out with a dislocated hip etc ,gee he is a tuff bugger but I hope he lasts the 80
 
That is the worst forward pack Manly has fielded in 78 years

On the flip side, if you are going to pick Turbot at fullback , that is the centre pairing we should have had all year ( at least when Talau was fit anyway which wasn't often)
Our backs look ok

Raiders by 40 and season over again

It's game over for Siebold now unless Penn's moth laden wallet comes into play , which is the most likely result actually.

Long season with a lame duck Siebold marshalling the nursing home troops again next year.

The spoon is distinct possibility.

What a distant memory Killer , Snake and co are ... hard to watch these blokes
 
Our back 5 is equally matched with theirs. After that they **** all over us. Do we have any starting forwards under 30? If they start to move the ball around and with their speed we will be grasping at thin air and it could get embarrassing. Just hope we can stick in there and make a game of it.
 
Knew all preseason our lack of backrow depth was going to be an issue. Lawton was no star but was a really handy player who always did a job when filling in on the edge, even took Burbo's spot at the backend of last year after outplaying him there for most of the year.

To Burbo's credit he has improved a bit this year, still not convinced he's a decent NRL quality edge player but he is streets ahead of Waddell and Chee Kam. And that's the issue, those two are literally the only backup options in the squad behind Burbo and Haumole. We've had the misfortunate of watching Corey start a few times while one of them have been out, now we get to see Chee Kam as well, who hasn't even been performing at NSW cup level as an experienced 33 year old. Terrible roster management which can't be blamed on the salary cap.
 
Is it just me or do we seem to have been permanently assigned butler as our bunker ref?

Just for your info, we have him again. This will now be the 4th game in a row.


MATCH OFFICIALS:

Peter "Daly! He's got 10 in the bin & he's got 10 in the bin & he's got 10 in the bin " Gough
Referee

Jarrod Cole
Touch Judge

Nick Pelgrave
Touch Judge

Chris "You're on report & you're on report & you're on report & you're on report " Butler
Bunker Review Official


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