The Haumole Bible.

[Eagleheart]

Worst of all. Seibold said in tonight's pressr that medical staff said there was a 90% chance Haumole re-injures his shoulder.
I decided to take the calculated risk.

Yes, he is now out for the rest of the season.

Agree XV-1, it just beggars belief Seibold did this.

When your medical staff tell you there’s a 90% chance a bloke will re-injure his shoulder, and you play him anyway, that’s not a “calculated risk,” that’s just plain dumb.

A good coach protects his players. End of story. Not just from the other team, but from situations like this.

Now Haumole’s out for the season, and who knows how serious it could’ve ended up? What kind of message does that send to the rest of the squad? That your health isn’t a priority if the coach wants to roll the dice?

Seibold can spin it how he wants, but this isn’t leadership, it’s recklessness. We need a coach who puts the team and the players’ futures first, not just tries to patch holes week to week.

 

[HoldenV8]

Why play him? Because he is our best player & we are trying to make finals id guess. I’m sure if they knew it would happen he wouldn’t have played but there was no way of knowing

Seibold himself said in the presser that they knew that there was a 90% chance the shoulder would go again.

To pass him fit to play on that alone is total bull💩, not to mention the coach playing him like that

 

[Cliffy's Jockstrap]

We have a lot of money invested in Ola'k. To play him with an expectation of 90% chance of re-injury, that is in every way madness. I agree with everyone else on this.

 

[JBW]

If I'm the CEO of a company and a manager in the company takes a risk that was 90% chance of failing and likely to be detrimental to business, I know what id do.

hopefully our CEO isn't a fan of Coldplay.

 

[XV-1]

If I'm the CEO of a company and a manager in the company takes a risk that was 90% chance of failing and likely to be detrimental to business, I know what id do.

hopefully our CEO isn't a fan of Coldplay.

and seibs doesn't have a partime gig in HR

 

[HoldenV8]

Seibold and the medical staff need to be sacked IMO.

 

[Hertera]

We have a lot of money invested in Ola'k. To play him with an expectation of 90% chance of re-injury, that is in every way madness. I agree with everyone else on this.

that's a desperate coach putting his job above the player and clubs long term success.

 

[Scorpio]

The real issue is that there was zero reason why this needed to be stated in the post-match press conference. It just gives the NRL media, most of whom are not medical experts and didn't have access to his scans, nor the conversations about the diagnosis and risks involved, something else to speculate about.

 

[Cliffycomeback]

Worst of all. Seibold said in tonight's pressr that medical staff said there was a 90% chance Haumole re-injures his shoulder.
I decided to take the calculated risk.

Yes, he is now out for the rest of the season.

No way. Surely you are winding us up?

 

[Cliffycomeback]

Agree XV-1, it just beggars belief Seibold did this.

When your medical staff tell you there’s a 90% chance a bloke will re-injure his shoulder, and you play him anyway, that’s not a “calculated risk,” that’s just plain dumb.

A good coach protects his players. End of story. Not just from the other team, but from situations like this.

Now Haumole’s out for the season, and who knows how serious it could’ve ended up? What kind of message does that send to the rest of the squad? That your health isn’t a priority if the coach wants to roll the dice?

Seibold can spin it how he wants, but this isn’t leadership, it’s recklessness. We need a coach who puts the team and the players’ futures first, not just tries to patch holes week to week.

Wow. I'd say that decision has likely ended his long term future as a head NRL coach.

 

[Loyal Eagle]

Needs surgery anyways regardless of whether he plays or not… just moved his surgery forward. I’ll guarantee the medical staff were on board, otherwise he would not have been medically cleared to play for insurance reasons. Finally, do you think player wanted to play, knowing risks explained by the medical staff?

Emotional forum group… sure it’s bad news but this happens in footy.. the bone graft stops the shoulder dislocating anteriortly and he will be good as new in ‘26. This is one of the main reasons they get paid so well… tough sport…

 

[Ned]

Needs surgery anyways regardless of whether he plays or not… just moved his surgery forward. I’ll guarantee the medical staff were on board, otherwise he would not have been medically cleared to play for insurance reasons. Finally, do you think player wanted to play, knowing risks explained by the medical staff?

Emotional forum group… sure it’s bad news but this happens in footy.. the bone graft stops the shoulder dislocating anteriortly and he will be good as new in ‘26. This is one of the main reasons they get paid so well… tough sport…

Yeah from what I see it was 90% this week or next week...etc. This was going to happen eventually so run the risk, and okka would've agreed so it's not negligence, just a shame he got bumped out of this season like that.

 

[Eagledare2dream]

He deserved more. He is one of our top players, we need to look after him.

He'$ our no1 player my friend, it was a shocker decisions everrr..

 

[Eagledare2dream]

He was meant to b ready in2 wks against da faiders fit and healthy, instead we brought him back for a thrashing 2wks early WTF RU C###TTT doing to my club???

 

[KNUCKLES]

Seems like the shoulder was a ticking time bomb until surgery anyway so I guess the bomb just went off early. Hopefully he can get right for next year.

A players health should be first and foremost. If he needed surgery to begin with, they should of sent him to op. We do need him out there, but at the end of the day we shouldn't be taking risks with our players.

 

[Spartan Eagle]

What a basket case of a club. Coach, CEO, medical staff and owners...

 

[Ohgeez]

Seibold himself said in the presser that they knew that there was a 90% chance the shoulder would go again.

To pass him fit to play on that alone is total bull💩, not to mention the coach playing him like that

This post from SER8 breaks it down…

Haha this thread is a bit weird, some of you think Seibold was told there was a 90% chance he'd dislocate his shoulder again today! As opposed to, some unknown time in the future.

Pretty obvious to me the advice was he might be able to play out the season, but to fix it properly would need an op and out for the season. Hence player and coaches decided to give it a go.

Same Injury has happened to Jarome Hughes, will you all be squawking about duty of care if he plays in the finals? Didn't Nathan Cleary have the same last year and came back and played strongly at the end of the season.

 

[Rocky]

worth a read in the Haumole context

https://www.news.com.au/sport/nrl/id-expect-him-to-be-back-jahrome-hughes-only-has-to-look-at-nathan-cleary-for-inspiration-tyran-wishart-opens-up-on-storm-future/news-story/13e5f974c820a44d7682d849718eb5bd

 

[Kiwi Eagle]

Comparing a big barnstorming forward to a halfback in this situation is comparing apples and oranges

 

[mave]

Comparing a big barnstorming forward to a halfback in this situation is comparing apples and oranges

He got injured attempting a tackle, yeah?

Pretty sure Hughes will be making his fair share upon his return too.