The newest rort in the NRL

[mickqld]

Whilst his conviction was for assaulting an adult, the SOR precludes people from working with Minors as I understand it.

That's right HM. He would need to get a working with children check and he will not pass.
The whole thing is a sham.

Slick Nick and greasy Todd will scam something up for him.

 

[HappilyManly]

we didn't have enough cap left to sign Glenn....
NRL wouldn't register a conract only worth $200K!
they see him as a $400K per year player

I've been thinking, if Gifty's ankle issues can void his Rabbids contract.

If so, his contract value must then fall and maybe Manly can still keep him on at $200k plus TPA :idea:


It ain't over till its over, second chances maybe given to long serving cleanskins in the NRL soon

 

[Bearfax]

What I don't get is, that as a registered sex offender, how he is allowed near children at all, let alone given a job that is all about contact with them :huh:

Whilst his conviction was for assaulting an adult, the SOR precludes people from working with Minors as I understand it.

Its all beyond the Grass Roots Fan, how the NRL Integrity Unit define their charter

I think you'll find the sex offenders registry only applies to child sex offenders (victims up to 16 years) or those in responsible positions with teenagers (victims up to 17 years). They are vigorously monitored by a team who do checks on them on a regular basis and those people must inform of any change of address, employment or other involvement that may risk them being near children. This includes those receiving child porn internet material who are caught out. Unfortuately the same process does not apply to sex offenders of adults

 

[HappilyManly]

I don't know about the orders specific to Fergie, but I do know that anyone that is convicted under a sexual offence is now automatically placed on the register - Crimes (Serious Sex Offenders) Amendment Bill 2013. This includes the requirement for an Offender to complete behaviour modification courses etc.

When it happened, the Journos were pointing this out and more importantly the fact that Fergie did not appreciate the severity of his crime. Once you are on it, it is permanent, it won't get erased once the sentence period is over

Whatever the case must be, the facts remain that the NRL is bending over backwards to rehabilitate, rather than sanction, players based on subjective rules. As I noted, Lui did have to sit out 12 months, Fergie doesn't :huh:

It is truly baffling to me why the NRL has agreed to the Rorters plan.
The man is currently not legally tied to them, so any further transgression would not besmirch the NRL.
But once he becomes an Community liaison Officer for an NRL Franchise, his behaviour will reflect on the whole of the NRL. The Women of League Round, 2 years running, is tainted by this man

I can't recall him being a superstar Player or even SBW Messiah like, but then again, a lot of NRL decisions defy common sense :dodgy:

 

[SeaEagleRock8]

I don't know about the orders specific to Fergie, but I do know that anyone that is convicted under a sexual offence is now automatically placed on the register - Crimes (Serious Sex Offenders) Amendment Bill 2013. This includes the requirement for an Offender to complete behaviour modification courses etc

I think you are wrong about that HM.

Which doesn't alter the issue raised by many people, namely that Ferguson hasn't shown himself to be a suitable person for the 'job' the roosters have devised for him.

Whatever the case must be, the facts remain that the NRL is bending over backwards to rehabilitate, rather than sanction, players based on subjective rules.

If this was aimed at 'rehabilitating' him I wouldn't have a problem with it, but I think it is aimed merely at satisfying public perception and getting him into a Rooster jersey asap.

 

[HappilyManly]

At least Carney went off to the bush and made a deliberate effort to change.

Fergie is playing the 'bad childhood exonerates my adult choices' tune :dodgy:
His being The Man's ventriloquist dummy at an interview was my favourite

The fact that Paul Kent has already picked up on the attempted scam is interesting, as he will report on all the Rorters' manouverings.

 

[TWO DOGS]

It appears that the Rorters have a "must be a dickhead policy".

 

[Alan]

Yep, of all the deserving and committed applicants for the position we, the Rooters, feel that the interests and welfare of our youth would be best served by the blake ferguson.




And if you believe that, Politis has a bridge he would like to sellyou.

 

[HappilyManly]

Roosters' recruit Blake Ferguson barred from working with junior players
May 22, 2014 - 5:13PM
Chris Barrett

Blake Ferguson would have to undergo a risk assessment by the NSW Commission for Children and Young People if his new job as a community and development officer was to include working with junior footy teams.
The Sydney Roosters on Thursday moved to clarify Ferguson’s position with the premiers in the face of a backlash about their employment of the former NSW State of Origin winger.

The 24-year-old, who remains deregistered by the NRL after being found guilty of indecently assaulting a woman at a Cronulla nightclub last year, is in his new role but not coaching or mentoring under-age players, the club says.

‘‘With regards to junior clubs, it’s the open-age players in the junior club system such as Bondi United A-grade team for example, that he’ll be doing coaching sessions with,’’ Roosters chief executive Brian Canavan said. ‘‘He will also be working with disadvantaged groups such as the NSW Wheelchair Rugby League and with the NRL and their welfare education department. He will do indigenous mentoring and those programs will be overseen by Dean Widders at the NRL.’’

The Roosters are aware of the hurdles to overcome should his position widen to coaching juniors.

Under the Child Protection (Working with Children) Act 2012 a conviction for indecent assault automatically bars a person from working with children.
For that to be lifted, Ferguson would have to clear a NSW Commission for Children and Young People risk assessment. Anyone in child-related work must pass a "Working with Children Check".

‘‘We’ll investigate down the track the appropriate channels as to the Working with Children Check,’’ Canavan said. ‘‘I’ve already made contact with the PCYC about that ... if he does work with the PCYC.’’
After starting the new job on Thursday, the Roosters hope to have the former Cronulla and Canberra back join their playing ranks next year and are vowing to support him.

Asked about the reaction to his role with the Roosters, Canavan said: ‘‘We carefully considered all this. We realise it’s a delicate situation.
‘‘Blake has already received his penalty and indeed that is still ongoing in terms of registration. What we’re trying to do is assist a young person with his own personal career and hopefully with his football career after that. We fully appreciate the fact that people have comment on it but he’s already been penalised. The other thing about Blake is he hasn’t had the advantage of a conventional upbringing and education.’’

Ferguson’s appeal against his conviction will be heard in court next month.



Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/league-news/roosters-recruit-blake-ferguson-barred-from-working-with-junior-players-20140522-zrld1.html#ixzz32U9z8clg

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Someone is thinking of the Children

 

[RiverEagle]

Hmm, would Canavan and the Rorters be so forgiving and generous to Fergo though if he wasn't such a talented footballer??.

It wasn't the crime of the century, but it was especially poor timing in the middle of the Origin series......Just as Junior Pearce torpedoed his chances a week before selections too.

Of course you'd hope Ferguson rehabilitates himself and even plays 1st grade again, but don't for one minute believe the Rorters are doing this for society or Fergo's welfare.

It's all about what he can do for them on the field at the end of the day.

 

[Brookie Brawler]

a) How many other convicted sex offenders are currently working as community development officers?

b) What wage would this type of role usually pay?

c) How much is Ferguson being paid by the Roosters?

d) Based on the answers to a, b & c, is Ferguson being paid to be a "community development officer" who is not allowed to work with junior players, or is he being paid to play rugby league for the Roosters in 2015 (or 2014).

Todd? David? Nick? Anyone?

 

[Bearfax]

I don't know about the orders specific to Fergie, but I do know that anyone that is convicted under a sexual offence is now automatically placed on the register - Crimes (Serious Sex Offenders) Amendment Bill 2013. This includes the requirement for an Offender to complete behaviour modification courses etc.

When it happened, the Journos were pointing this out and more importantly the fact that Fergie did not appreciate the severity of his crime. Once you are on it, it is permanent, it won't get erased once the sentence period is over

Whatever the case must be, the facts remain that the NRL is bending over backwards to rehabilitate, rather than sanction, players based on subjective rules. As I noted, Lui did have to sit out 12 months, Fergie doesn't :huh:

It is truly baffling to me why the NRL has agreed to the Rorters plan.
The man is currently not legally tied to them, so any further transgression would not besmirch the NRL.
But once he becomes an Community liaison Officer for an NRL Franchise, his behaviour will reflect on the whole of the NRL. The Women of League Round, 2 years running, is tainted by this man

I can't recall him being a superstar Player or even SBW Messiah like, but then again, a lot of NRL decisions defy common sense :dodgy:

My apologies Happily. I was formerly employed in an area that dealt with offenders in general and especially sex offenders and had involvement with the child sex offenders and the group handling them in the Serious Sex offenders group of officers, so I know quite a lot about their procedures. But I retired from that position in late 2010 and have not kept up to date with recent changes in the Act. I therefore bow to your more recent information.

 

[HappilyManly]

No worries, my only concern was the blithe way this offender is treating the Law. Glad that Silvertails is not alone in social consciousness and the Reporter followed it up.

We already had Fergie disregard other social morales regarding employee behaviour and respect of women

I am somewhat disturbed by the attitude of the Rorter's man being quoted . His point about Fergie being already penalised is incorrect. The Court issued a sentence of a Good Behaviour Bond and specific programes to attend, and they need to be completed prior to Fergie being deemed to have paid his due to Society. :dodgy:

Fergie must have some unique league talent, that none of us have seen, for a Club to risk their reputations on him at this stage of his sentence. The stress introduced by this spotlight may be counter productive to his rehab

 

[Ryan]

So they jump at the chance to employ a bloke who broke a contract to leave the league, and replace him with a sex offender who was QLD Origin mates with a guy who took a dump in a hallway, who that year was facing a guy that kept breaking his club's imposed alcohol ban who had to work with a new number nine, because the club's 19 year old Hooker beat up a police person.

Who are all these players?

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Any guesses?

 

[globaleagle]

Paul stastny?

 

[Las Vegas Blvd]

With Fingerson and Pearce both at the club, they can change their name to the Sydney Gropers.

Isnt there a story dong the rounds where BF thought he was groping a chick when he put his hand down her pants and said " you know for a chick - youv'e got some set of balls "

 

[bones]

With Fingerson and Pearce both at the club, they can change their name to the Sydney Gropers.

Isnt there a story dong the rounds where BF thought he was groping a chick when he put his hand down her pants and said " you know for a chick - youv'e got some set of balls "

There is now.

 

[SeaEagleRock8]

With Fingerson and Pearce both at the club, they can change their name to the Sydney Gropers.

Isnt there a story dong the rounds where BF thought he was groping a chick when he put his hand down her pants and said " you know for a chick - youv'e got some set of balls "

Why don't you take your imagination back to the Kennel where it belongs?

 

[eagle66]

What message does this send to the kids, who go to Uni, get some kind of degree in Social services/welfare or societal behaviours and they cannot score a job like what is offered to Blake Ferguson?

 

[Alan]

What message does this send to the kids, who go to Uni, get some kind of degree in Social services/welfare or societal behaviours and they cannot score a job like what is offered to Blake Ferguson?

A) Should of played footie.

Did a vacancy exist in a current position or was the position created solely for ferguson? If the later, it is a cynical and disgusting exercise in rorting the system.

if a vacancy existed in a genuine position then the recruitment process was morally corrupt.