The Realistic Cleanout

[The '47ers]

Imagine coming home to your wife and saying I've given up 1.2million because old mate on the Silvertails forum reckons thats what soneone who loves Manly should do...

In what world...

We knowingly offered and stuctured a deal to our benefit, Jakes effort is not in question. He is owed his deal.

We shop or pay him and I think we'd be foolish to shop him.

Good luck to him, cash in boy.

Effort not in question? - debatable, but his effort isn't enough anymore he's a passenger. Barely takes a run, couldn't bust a pimple let alone a defensive line.

But at the end of the day he's holding the team back now.

Its the real world - no one is "owed" anything.

 

[Disco]

Good luck to him, cash in boy.

Effort not in question? - debatable, but his effort isn't enough anymore he's a passenger. Barely takes a run, couldn't bust a pimple let alone a defensive line.

But at the end of the day he's holding the team back now.

Its the real world - no one is "owed" anything.

Nonsense, in the real world organisations and individuals are bound by the contracts they enter into.

Unless Jake broke the terms of his contract he is owed his contract in full.

 

[Rocky]

Yep, his defence is still good enough to have him as a bench player. I think he knows when it's time to give it away. Everyone can see that he's having trouble competing in attack and frankly, I don't reckon Tom would let him go on if he started getting embarrassed on the field.

And I think he and TKO are really needed to help bring on the young blokes we are trying to develop. Save any further injuries, one more year could see them both out and then hopefully he'll be offered a role in the club. He's too valuable as a clubman.

I'm interested why would you put Jake on the bench?

In my view he's better off starting and playing 20 minutes as a prop, as he is more suited in the early more physical exchanges. Then bring on the impactful middles like Bully etc when the game opens up

 

[The '47ers]

Nonsense, in the real world organisations and individuals are bound by the contracts they enter into.

Unless Jake broke the terms of his contract he is owed his contract in full.

Yes 100% correct, as you are talking the pen/paper world. I'm just saying outside of all that, in life.

 

[Disco]

Yes 100% correct, as you are talking the pen/paper world. I'm just saying outside of all that, in life.

The pen/paper world.......deary me.

 

[Seagles68]

I'm interested why would you put Jake on the bench?

In my view he's better off starting and playing 20 minutes as a prop, as he is more suited in the early more physical exchanges. Then bring on the impactful middles like Bully etc when the game opens up

Sorry, when I say bench player, I mean not an 80 min player. Lately he's been given a token rest on the bench for a breather. I'm suggesting he is utilised either the way you are suggesting or more strategically like when the defence is clearly struggling through the middle and he is brought on to tighten that up so the game doesn't get away from them.

Also, the way he (and others for that matter) are used, can also depend on the team they are playing. Some teams are more known for fast aggressive starts and that's when Jake could be most effective - to nullify that potentially.

Anyway, I just feel we rarely give thought to who we are playing on any given week and we just go with the same game plan. I'd like to see it shaken up a bit and how we use Jake more effectively should be part of that coz he really doesn't have a lot to offer in attack, even as a starting prop.