The Souff's thread .......

[Woodsie]

I read today that John Sutton is about to become Souff's first 300 game player .... well done ...

... but how does a club that has been going since 1908 have only one player to reach this milestone ... when Manly has had 2 since only 1947 ....

Is it lack of loyalty .... is it mismanagement that sees them unable to hold on to them?

the 300 games one club players are


Games Player Clubs Years
369 Cameron Smith Melbourne 2002–
355 Darren Lockyer Brisbane 1995–2011
347 Corey Parker Brisbane 2001–2016
330 Nathan Hindmarsh Parramatta 1998–2012
328 Andrew Ettingshausen Cronulla-Sutherland 1983–2000
323 Cooper Cronk Melbourne 2004–2017[1]
318 Jason Croker Canberra 1991–2006
317 Hazem El Masri Canterbury-Bankstown 1996–2009
310 Paul Gallen Cronulla-Sutherland 2001–
309 Cliff Lyons Manly-Warringah 1986–1999
306 Billy Slater Melbourne 2003–
302 Anthony Minichiello Sydney Roosters 2000–2014
301 Luke Ricketson Sydney Roosters 1991–2005

 

[The Who]

... or is it because Easts steal their proven stars?

 

[Woodsie]

The stand out of course is Melbourne with 3 in only 20 years ..... and all spine players ...

I think Bellamy's coaching resume would look very different without the stability and talent in that spine over the past 16 years

 

[Disco]

1908 seems irrelevant as all 300 plus players have been in the last 35 years, then only 8 clubs have had players reach that mark.......so not that crazy really

That said I think the 300 mark will become more and more common

 

[MissKate]

Beaver

 

[StuBoot]

He's lucky that he's hitting the milestone as I reckon he's been a passenger in about 25% of them.

 

[BOZO]

There you go feathered friends ....

Most First Grade Games for the Club

309 Cliff Lyons 1986-99; 280 Steve Menzies 1993-99, 2003-08; 278 Anthony Watmough 2003-14; 263 Alan Thompson 1973-84; 255 Des Hasler 1984-93, 95-96; 241 Fred Jones 1961-63, 65-75; 238 Geoff Toovey 1988-1999; 237 Graham Eadie 1971-83; 233 Brett Stewart 2003-16; 230 Steve Matai 2003-16; 224 Jamie Lyon 2007-16

 

[MissKate]

If certain players can include super league game (different comp??) then why can't Beaver's northern eagles games (same comp/same licence)

 

[Class of 96]

I read today that John Sutton is about to become Souff's first 300 game player .... well done ...

... but how does a club that has been going since 1908 have only one player to reach this milestone ... when Manly has had 2 since only 1947 ....

Is it lack of loyalty .... is it mismanagement that sees them unable to hold on to them?

the 300 games one club players are


Games Player Clubs Years
369 Cameron Smith Melbourne 2002–
355 Darren Lockyer Brisbane 1995–2011
347 Corey Parker Brisbane 2001–2016
330 Nathan Hindmarsh Parramatta 1998–2012
328 Andrew Ettingshausen Cronulla-Sutherland 1983–2000
323 Cooper Cronk Melbourne 2004–2017[1]
318 Jason Croker Canberra 1991–2006
317 Hazem El Masri Canterbury-Bankstown 1996–2009
310 Paul Gallen Cronulla-Sutherland 2001–
309 Cliff Lyons Manly-Warringah 1986–1999
306 Billy Slater Melbourne 2003–
302 Anthony Minichiello Sydney Roosters 2000–2014
301 Luke Ricketson Sydney Roosters 1991–2005

Far less games in 1908 when you and I were basking on the Hill Woodsie.

 

[Class of 96]

I think Bellamy's coaching resume would look very different without the stability and talent in that spine over the past 16 years

Or was Bellamy instrumental in making them a great spine?

 

[Simonmyers11]

If certain players can include super league game (different comp??) then why can't Beaver's northern eagles games (same comp/same licence)

The above totals are for playing for one club (not total rugby league games for their career).

Menzies played a total of 349 NRL games and 128 super league games!!

To go with 13 test matches, 20 origin appearances, 8 city games and 20 final series games!

 

[Woodsie]

Beaver

You will note in my original post that I said Manly had produced 2 .... but the list only names one .... Cliffy ....

Did you seriously think I was not going to count Menzies?

 

[Fluffy]

I read today that John Sutton is about to become Souff's first 300 game player .... well done ...

... but how does a club that has been going since 1908 have only one player to reach this milestone ... when Manly has had 2 since only 1947 ....

Is it lack of loyalty .... is it mismanagement that sees them unable to hold on to them?

the 300 games one club players are


Games Player Clubs Years
369 Cameron Smith Melbourne 2002–
355 Darren Lockyer Brisbane 1995–2011
347 Corey Parker Brisbane 2001–2016
330 Nathan Hindmarsh Parramatta 1998–2012
328 Andrew Ettingshausen Cronulla-Sutherland 1983–2000
323 Cooper Cronk Melbourne 2004–2017[1]
318 Jason Croker Canberra 1991–2006
317 Hazem El Masri Canterbury-Bankstown 1996–2009
310 Paul Gallen Cronulla-Sutherland 2001–
309 Cliff Lyons Manly-Warringah 1986–1999
306 Billy Slater Melbourne 2003–
302 Anthony Minichiello Sydney Roosters 2000–2014
301 Luke Ricketson Sydney Roosters 1991–2005

your list tells the story, just not enough games in a season until recently.

You missed Beaver

 

[Fluffy]

The above totals are for playing for one club (not total rugby league games for their career).

Menzies played a total of 349 NRL games and 128 super league games!!

To go with 13 test matches, 20 origin appearances, 8 city games and 20 final series games!

Need the 500 game clip from fox - funny as fark

 

[MissKate]

@Simonmyers11 my point is that the likes of lockyer played in a super league comp in Aust , might have been for the broncos but it was a different comp. just a matter of opinion but in my eyes if the powers that be won't recognise Beaver's achievements then I don't recognise lockyer's achievements

 

[Chip and Chase]

I think that Souffs 200 club is sparsely populated as well - 4 or 5 members I suspect. We'd have 2 or 3 times as many 200 gamers as they would.

 

[HappilyManly]

Souths were always a poor club and their good players were headhunted mainly by Easts and Manly 😉
Plus they were not in the comp 200-2001

The SL war saw Mario leave just before he hit the 300 games.

Surprised that the Dogs don't have a Mortimer or a Hughes in this milestone

300 will be harder to reach now that the Cap is in effect.

 

[Eagles2nv]

@Simonmyers11 my point is that the likes of lockyer played in a super league comp in Aust , might have been for the broncos but it was a different comp. just a matter of opinion but in my eyes if the powers that be won't recognise Beaver's achievements then I don't recognise lockyer's achievements

Yeah it really annoys me they don't include Beaver in that list. Its not like he left Manly and went elsewhere, the NE where just a temporary evolution (regression) of the club.

 

[bob dylan]

It always struck me as a bit weird with Souths as with Easts.

However the deciding factor is that in those formative years there was two World Wars which removed a large % of the male population. Even though the competition continued many many players served in the armed forces, often for many years.

The second big factor is there was often only 8 teams in the comp before Manly and Parra joined in '47, so 14 regular games a season, plus 2 finals matches. At that rate in would take 19 seasons to get 300 games or 13 seasons to play 200 games.

It was really only after Sharks and Penrith joined in '67, a 12 team comp meaning 22 home and away games and 3 finals, it became really possible to play 200 games in 9 seasons.

I would suggest ,many Souths players have played over 200 games, just not at one club. Players like McCarthy, Coote, Stevens, Branighan just to name a few.

 

[skull61]

Souths also won pretty much all their premierships when they used to play the comp at the park at the end of the street