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[Brookie1973]

He is a strong Leader and he does have thick skin
He is A Special Air Services regiment soldier

Biography​

Parliamentary service

• Elected to the House of Representatives for Canning, Western Australia at by-election 2015, vice D Randall (deceased). Re-elected 2016, 2019 and 2022.

Parliamentary positions

• Member of the Speaker's Panel from 1.9.2016 to 22.7.2019.

Ministerial appointments

• Assistant Minister for Defence from 22.12.2020 to 23.5.2022.

Committee service

• House of Representatives Standing: Tax and Revenue served from 19.10.2015 to 9.5.2016; Infrastructure, Transport and Cities served from 4.2.2016 to 9.5.2016; Employment, Education and Training served from 4.7.2019 to 22.12.2020
• Joint Standing: Foreign Affairs, Defence and Trade served from 2.3.2016 to 9.5.2016; Foreign Affairs, Defence and Trade served from 14.9.2016 to 4.12.2017; National Capital and External Territories served from 14.9.2016 to 9.2.2017; Foreign Affairs, Defence and Trade served from 23.7.2019 to 22.12.2020
• Joint Statutory: Intelligence and Security served from 15.9.2016 to 7.2.2017; Intelligence and Security served as Chair from 8.2.2017 to 22.12.2020; Public Accounts and Audit served from 13.8.2018 to 1.7.2019; Intelligence and Security served from 5.9.2022 to present

Parliamentary party positions

• Liberal Party of Australia. Served: 19.09.2015 to present
• Shadow Minister for Defence from 5.6.2022.
• Shadow Cabinet Minister from 5.6.2022.
• Shadow Minister for Defence Industry from 5.3.2024.
• Shadow Minister for Defence Personnel from 5.3.2024.

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Good looking conservative white male ex soldier. He will certainly make a good target for those who believe in identity politics.

 

[BOZO]

Good looking conservative white male ex soldier. He will certainly make a good target for those who believe in identity politics.

We will see if the liberals are smart enough to choose him as leader

 

[nightster]

Love how our ABC and Labor have jumped on Jacinta Price referencing a comment made famous by Trump, make Aust great again, in a short speech. This was all they needed, as they piled on Price for mentioning this. One thing about Labor and the ABC, they don't miss a trick.

Unlike the LNP and Sky eh?

 

[BOZO]

Unlike the LNP and Sky eh?

True feathered friend
I watch Sky
All the rest are fake news 🙂

 

[lsz]

I agree. We shouldn’t overreact to a single election, but it is difficult to see what the conservative side of politics will champion from here. I worry we have started down the path of a single party state, which is good for no one. If the ALP can get reelected with a massive swing in its favour after the last 3 years, I’m not sure what it will take for them to lose government.

Honestly I think at some stage there will be a teale version to compete with the labour parties (driven like the climate 2000 people) which will then see them fragment more.

The libs are silly if they are not thinking there is something like that in it for them.

As for the election I really think it is hard to judge mainly because Petter Dutton just was not effective as a leader for an election(a good attack dog). After watching his concession speech I would have loved to see more of that side of him

 

[lsz]

Good looking conservative white male ex soldier. He will certainly make a good target for those who believe in identity politics.

They could have a 40 year old Johnny Howard as the leader - without looking at how they have lost their heartland seats I am not sure it matters a heap

 

[Brookie1973]

They could have a 40 year old Johnny Howard as the leader - without looking at how they have lost their heartland seats I am not sure it matters a heap

Yep, when you get your arse handed to you by a truly poor incumbent government, it all seems pretty pointless. There will obviously be a period of introspection, but where to from here, who knows? I do know that a country needs a strong opposition, regardless of who is in government.

 

[lsz]

Yep, when you get your arse handed to you by a truly poor incumbent government, it all seems pretty pointless. There will obviously be a period of introspection, but where to from here, who knows? I do know that a country needs a strong opposition, regardless of who is in government.

I guess they go one of two ways

They could either really lean into the far right sentiment (which I think they flirted with but from the sounds of your feedback they did not really do it) or they find another way.

One thing I find especially interesting is when people compare the US elections to say ours. For me the fundamental difference of compulsory voting makes this a mute point...which is my long winded way of saying that aping trump here would not really work

 

[Uber Eagle 72]

It will be interesting to see how environmental politics evolves in Australia over the coming 10 years also. The transition to renewables will come at a cost. One cost that appears not properly understood by the average citizen is the conversion of infrastructure required to deliver it. Energy costs will likely further increase as this infrastructure upgrade occurs which will further drive up inflation. Once the average citizen understands this….. the political climate ( no pun intended) will shift. In my mind there are 3 types of people that vote with the environment in mind. 1. Younger people without a mortgage or family. 2. 30 plus Australians with a mortgage and family. 3. Older affluent Financially secure Australians.
The biggest portion of the voting population is number 2 ( 30 plus Australians with a mortgage and family) who I believe vote in favour of supporting zero emissions policy with the understanding that someone else other than themselves will pay!! once they realise this is not the case their voting decision will significantly change. To some degree this has happened in the US.🇺🇸. If the standard of living continues to decline in Australia which is likely the case… large portions of segment 2 of the population will be chasing Albo with a pitchfork….interesting times ahead.

 

[nightster]

True feathered friend
I watch Sky
All the rest are fake news 🙂

Sky is not a news channel clickbait entertainment

 

[Brookie1973]

We will see if the liberals are smart enough to choose him as leader

Looks like he doesn’t want it. No surprise really.

 

[manlyfan76]

Fair enough

I do agree that we need a realistic, viable opposition party. It’s a strange situation, I’m not even sure what conservative values are anymore after that campaign.

I grew up on the North Shore of Sydney (Johnny Howard was my local member for a while), then moved to the Northern Beaches. Until Zali Steggall was elected, I had always lived in the safest of safe Liberal seats.

There’s something missing from the Liberal/Conservative offering in my area. I don’t think a shift to the far right will work here for several reasons. But considering they’ve failed to find a message that resonates with former Liberal voters, they have reason to be concerned.

Last election they said they didn't resonate well with women. They did nothing to change that.
Dutton was not liked by women, only 22% of young liberals are women so it may be hard to become more female friendly in the short term.

I think another mistake was Dutton and co living in the friendly media bubble ( skynews, Fordham etc) and not getting battle tested before the campaign, getting used to tuff questions from the "hate" media. All Dutton could do when questioned was not answer the question.
He was not ready and it showed.

 

[manlyfan76]

Unlike the LNP and Sky eh?

Skynews actually asked her about it also.

 

[manlyfan76]

It will be interesting to see how environmental politics evolves in Australia over the coming 10 years also. The transition to renewables will come at a cost. One cost that appears not properly understood by the average citizen is the conversion of infrastructure required to deliver it. Energy costs will likely further increase as this infrastructure upgrade occurs which will further drive up inflation. Once the average citizen understands this….. the political climate ( no pun intended) will shift. In my mind there are 3 types of people that vote with the environment in mind. 1. Younger people without a mortgage or family. 2. 30 plus Australians with a mortgage and family. 3. Older affluent Financially secure Australians.
The biggest portion of the voting population is number 2 ( 30 plus Australians with a mortgage and family) who I believe vote in favour of supporting zero emissions policy with the understanding that someone else other than themselves will pay!! once they realise this is not the case their voting decision will significantly change. To some degree this has happened in the US.🇺🇸. If the standard of living continues to decline in Australia which is likely the case… large portions of segment 2 of the population will be chasing Albo with a pitchfork….interesting times ahead.

So how do explain S.A. having so much renewable power and such little base load fossil fuel (4% most of the time)
Are they all broke?

Also on voting demographic do you remember the school kids climate protests? Hundreds of thousands of kids wagging school to protest and Scomo telling them they should be in school? They are all voting now. Wonder if they vote LNP.

 

[Uber Eagle 72]

So how do explain S.A. having so much renewable power and such little base load fossil fuel (4% most of the time)
Are they all broke?

Also on voting demographic do you remember the school kids climate protests? Hundreds of thousands of kids wagging school to protest and Scomo telling them they should be in school? They are all voting now. Wonder if they vote LNP.

You don t need to agree with me mate. In answer to your question The cost of power is just not household it’s the cost of manufacturing, storage etc. across the supply chain. I would imagine a lot of produce consumed in SA comes from other states.

 

[Eagle 1]

So how do explain S.A. having so much renewable power and such little base load fossil fuel (4% most of the time)
Are they all broke?

Also on voting demographic do you remember the school kids climate protests? Hundreds of thousands of kids wagging school to protest and Scomo telling them they should be in school? They are all voting now. Wonder if they vote LNP.

Ah yes, all encouraged to wag school and to protest by the progressive left School teachers you mean.

 

[SeaEagleRock8]

I expect One Nation and Clive Palmer to push the Libs further towards an openly right wing populist position, which has proved a successful strategy in a number of countries.

All you have to do is persuade battling workers that their problems aren't because of the increasing concentration of wealth among a billionaire class, rather its the fault of migrants and the climate change hoax. Gina agrees!

Gina Rinehart urges Liberals to stick with Trump-like policies in the wake of election loss

Billionaire tells Daily Mail ‘left media’ frightened party away from ‘anything Trump’ and calls on Liberals to adopt ‘commonsense and truth’ principles

www.theguardian.com

 

[Eagle 1]

I expect One Nation and Clive Palmer to push the Libs further towards an openly right wing populist position, which has proved a successful strategy in a number of countries.

All you have to do is persuade battling workers that their problems aren't because of the increasing concentration of wealth among a billionaire class, rather its the fault of migrants and the climate change hoax. Gina agrees!

Gina Rinehart urges Liberals to stick with Trump-like policies in the wake of election loss

Billionaire tells Daily Mail ‘left media’ frightened party away from ‘anything Trump’ and calls on Liberals to adopt ‘commonsense and truth’ principles

www.theguardian.com

Palmer has had enough, so he says, we'll see i guess. A UK type Reform party could work here in Aust and fill the void left by the incompetent LNP.

 

[manlyfan76]

Ah yes, all encouraged to wag school and to protest by the progressive left School teachers you mean.

And instead of engaging them, having reasonable debate ( refused to meet with them) scomo and co pushed them.
And thus never had the chance to win them over, even a small % of them.
And now they vote.

 

[Eagle 1]

And instead of engaging them, having reasonable debate ( refused to meet with them) scomo and co pushed them.
And thus never had the chance to win them over, even a small % of them.
And now they vote.

Scomo never had a chance anyway, 6yrs of indoctrination from progressive school teachers in Primary schools. It's only when they get to high school that they formulate there own thoughts and beliefs.