Trump

[Brookie1973]

Looking more and more like the biggest political scandal in history - Obama/Clinton allegedly weaponising the CIA/FBI to take down an elected president. So much for the bastions of democracy. Probably not being covered on leftist media, which tells you everything you need to know about how propagandists operate. Makes watergate look like a 10 year old cheating on his spelling test.

 

[SeaEagleRock8]

Why would someone post an article from this group and expect it to be taken seriously??

We've got to get "back to God's good and beautiful moral order".

Let's see, anti-abortion, men head of the household, socialism goes against God's natural order, homosexuality is sinful, the ignorant natives of the world need to be saved by our missionaries, and so on. Great stuff but I'm not a fan.

 

[Cliffycomeback]

I haven't been keeping up but if you're referring to me here that statement is pretty wild. I wouldn't vote for a communist party, or even a socialist party for that matter. Ironically I believe the tangent about discussing these concepts came from a comment made by myself claiming how there's a point on both the left and right wing where the ideologies converge more loosely to hatred / dictatorship (end not the means) than political policy and that Trump was starting to push the boundaries.

Me and another poster eventually went on a tangent comparing the significant differences between Socialism/Communism/Social Democracy. I agreed with a claim made in an article referenced by this poster, something like 'Socialism never works in practice'. Another poster and I then got into a separate tangent where we discussed how this perspective may become outdated in the future as things such as tech/automation continue to develop and the concepts adapt/develop further. If I really have to spell it out, i'm not a Communist, nor a communist loyalist...

My post was a light hearted jab at how many of the "Socialist/Communists" in the Western world are screaming about Trump being a dictatorial leader. Most of the examples they use to validate their claim such as power centralisation and media control/censorship are the very things every Communist ruler does. It's the irony of it all that amuses me. The Western world appears to be brimming with entrepreneurial commies styled as Che Guevara or pseudo keffiyeh wearing terrorists.

It's all a bit sad really.

 

[lsz]

Has there ever been a more toxic organisation than Fox?

I thought I would take a fun trip down memory lane

Remember Benghazi?

The biggest of big scandals.
A reminder of the coverage here: REPORT: Fox's Benghazi Obsession By The Numbers
Which included 281 segments alleging a “cover-up” by the Obama administration & essetially blaming Hillary for all of it. So what happened at the end? There was no wrong doing on her behalf

What about the FISA surveillance memo, which to quote our great man Sean Hannity, was far worse than Watergate/

There was an Inspector General report in 2019 (by someone who is still working with Trump) who concluded that there were significant errors and omissions in the FISA applications for Carter Page—but no evidence of political bias driving the decision to open the Russia investigation.

Lets do one more (it is not like there are not enough out there)

Remember the Uranium One "scandal" where Hannity said “one of the biggest scandals in American history.”

It is a shame there was no credible evidence ever surfaced to substantiate allegations of pay‑to‑play or Clinton’s personal involvement; six years of investigations concluded no wrongdoing


If you were to ask me what a bigger scandal is the very clear way that the current president is using his role to make money either for his golf clubs, crypto or lord knows what else

 

[Brookie1973]

Why would someone post an article from this group and expect it to be taken seriously??

We've got to get "back to God's good and beautiful moral order".

Let's see, anti-abortion, men head of the household, socialism goes against God's natural order, homosexuality is sinful, the ignorant natives of the world need to be saved by our missionaries, and so on. Great stuff but I'm not a fan.



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It’s heartening that you actually clicked on the article, but disappointing that you have reverted to the default “shoot the messenger” mode. Presumably, and in the absence of any counter-argument, you agree with the central thesis that leftist act like the very fascists they see around every corner.

 

[Brookie1973]

Has there ever been a more toxic organisation than Fox?

I thought I would take a fun trip down memory lane

Remember Benghazi?

The biggest of big scandals.
A reminder of the coverage here: REPORT: Fox's Benghazi Obsession By The Numbers
Which included 281 segments alleging a “cover-up” by the Obama administration & essetially blaming Hillary for all of it. So what happened at the end? There was no wrong doing on her behalf

What about the FISA surveillance memo, which to quote our great man Sean Hannity, was far worse than Watergate/

There was an Inspector General report in 2019 (by someone who is still working with Trump) who concluded that there were significant errors and omissions in the FISA applications for Carter Page—but no evidence of political bias driving the decision to open the Russia investigation.

Lets do one more (it is not like there are not enough out there)

Remember the Uranium One "scandal" where Hannity said “one of the biggest scandals in American history.”

It is a shame there was no credible evidence ever surfaced to substantiate allegations of pay‑to‑play or Clinton’s personal involvement; six years of investigations concluded no wrongdoing


If you were to ask me what a bigger scandal is the very clear way that the current president is using his role to make money either for his golf clubs, crypto or lord knows what else

Reads like classic “whataboutism” to me.

 

[SeaEagleRock8]

Has there ever been a more toxic organisation than Fox?

I thought I would take a fun trip down memory lane

Remember Benghazi?

The biggest of big scandals.
A reminder of the coverage here: REPORT: Fox's Benghazi Obsession By The Numbers
Which included 281 segments alleging a “cover-up” by the Obama administration & essetially blaming Hillary for all of it. So what happened at the end? There was no wrong doing on her behalf

What about the FISA surveillance memo, which to quote our great man Sean Hannity, was far worse than Watergate/

There was an Inspector General report in 2019 (by someone who is still working with Trump) who concluded that there were significant errors and omissions in the FISA applications for Carter Page—but no evidence of political bias driving the decision to open the Russia investigation.

Lets do one more (it is not like there are not enough out there)

Remember the Uranium One "scandal" where Hannity said “one of the biggest scandals in American history.”

It is a shame there was no credible evidence ever surfaced to substantiate allegations of pay‑to‑play or Clinton’s personal involvement; six years of investigations concluded no wrongdoing


If you were to ask me what a bigger scandal is the very clear way that the current president is using his role to make money either for his golf clubs, crypto or lord knows what else

what is most surprising to me is that Hannity is not Secretary of State. He's got Bongiorno, Hegseth, Judge Jenine and probably others promoted to the inner sanctum of power. I guess he thinks Hannity is more useful in his current role of prime time spin doctor.

 

[lsz]

what is most surprising to me is that Hannity is not Secretary of State. He's got Bongiorno, Hegseth, Judge Jenine and probably others promoted to the inner sanctum of power. I guess he thinks Hannity is more useful in his current role of prime time spin doctor.

Cheerleader for me more than spin doctor.

Of course it is more than fine for the Fox reporters to appear at campaign rallies and the like

 

[Cliffycomeback]

https://www.news.com.au/world/north-america/us-politics/us-politics-live/live-coverage/d500b419e48226a0b4109bbb05097a5f

 

[Brookie1973]

what is most surprising to me is that Hannity is not Secretary of State. He's got Bongiorno, Hegseth, Judge Jenine and probably others promoted to the inner sanctum of power. I guess he thinks Hannity is more useful in his current role of prime time spin doctor.

Yeah I know. Fancy appointing people with real world experience in the portfolios they were appointed to. He should have just followed historical practice and appointed the next in line from the Washington swamp.

Is there anything any of these appointments has done wrong in your eyes, or is this just another subjective personalities based judgement?

BTW, here are a couple of articles on Bidens appointments to the roles now held by Hegseth and Judge Pirro.

Lloyd Austin reacts with awkward silence when asked if he has regrets about Afghanistan withdrawal

Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin was silent for several seconds before telling Fox News anchor Bret Baier on Saturday what his regrets are about the U.S. withdrawal from Afghanistan.

www.foxnews.com

US Attorney Matthew Graves to resign after failing to charge Hunter Biden, letting DC crime run rampant

DC US Attorney Matthew Graves announced Monday that he will resign before President-elect Donald Trump retakes the White House — likely avoiding an involuntary departure after controversial decisio…

nypost.com

 

[Brookie1973]

Cheerleader for me more than spin doctor.

Of course it is more than fine for the Fox reporters to appear at campaign rallies and the like

Rachel Maddow admits MSNBC colleagues started 'stamping and clapping' during DNC | Fox News Video

MSNBC host Rachel Maddow said her colleagues in the studio all got out of their seats and started dancing because of the excitement at the DNC.

www.foxnews.com