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[SeaEagleRock8]

Let's forget Albanese we're stuck with him for now. Could be worse (much worse)

as for this:

Re Israel etc ,know where do you mention anything re the hostages that were taken, or what kicked the whole thing off, is it all Israel's fault ?

I know it's popular to say the whole think began with the shocking massacre 2 years ago but that is so so far from the truth.
It's quite easy to look up the history of how the modern state of Israel was formed, and what happened in the decades that led up to that point, and what happened in the decades since then.
In any case all US govts have supported Israel because they see it as vital to their interests - so not only Trump - but fact is the US is the major supplier of weaponry and Israel's most powerful supporter on the world stage (or by now, maybe only supporter). The US could have used that influence to shut down this horror a long time ago.

I'll check out the rest of your post later 🙂

 

[Uber Eagle 72]

How is Albanese 'accidental'? Didn't he absolutely decimate the Libs, to the point the party's future is on life support?

As for Trump, so far as I'm concerned he's complicit in Netanyahu's genocide, he could have reined that monster in a long time ago but he gave him free reign to do what he's done.

To give him credit for peace now would be akin to giving him credit for peace with Iran on the basis he bombed them then stopped bombing them, voila, peace.

Just interested in your comment on Netanyahu or Israel’s war. Not sure how anyone can say Trump is complicit here more aptly it is the US who has supported them bilaterally. Most of this occurred when the democrats were in government. Trump has objectively done more whether clumsily or just well intentioned then the previous administration both in this war and the war in Ukraine.

 

[Uber Eagle 72]

This says it all. And for our our left leaning friends this is CNN footage.

 

[cricket008]

How is Albanese 'accidental'? Didn't he absolutely decimate the Libs, to the point the party's future is on life support?

As for Trump, so far as I'm concerned he's complicit in Netanyahu's genocide, he could have reined that monster in a long time ago but he gave him free reign to do what he's done.

To give him credit for peace now would be akin to giving him credit for peace with Iran on the basis he bombed them then stopped bombing them, voila, peace.

I think calling Albanese ‘accidental’ is more about how much the Libs self-destructed than about his popularity.

 

[h27272727]

Just interested in your comment on Netanyahu or Israel’s war. Not sure how anyone can say Trump is complicit here more aptly it is the US who has supported them bilaterally. Most of this occurred when the democrats were in government. Trump has objectively done more whether clumsily or just well intentioned then the previous administration both in this war and the war in Ukraine.

The US in general has a lot to say for the Israel-Palestine conflict getting to where it is today. While i'm butting in here, I have not been cautious to make that point. One of the only politicians over there in recent years that has consistently spoken against the conflict is Bernie Sanders and he was chewed out.

I suspect Kamala would've handled it as carelessly as all the other prior presidents have. Infact, since 2023 under both republican and democratic governance the US has funded Israel with $23billion and failed to condemn even indirect concerns such as displacement/disease/blocking foreign journalists.

With that said, Trump has overseen the worst period of the conflict in its 80 year history. His initial plan was to have the US take over Gaza. That didn't go well, eventually just jokes (?) about Trump tower being there. It took 10 months for him to say anything against Israel's will. And amidst the escalating situation in Gaza, he advocates for himself and Netanyahu to win Nobel peace prizes... ffs

The peace plan - while absolutely called for - has some notable flaws. It also doesn't overcome the issue plaguing the last 30 years of the conflict; ambiguous, empty promises for peace.

Israel does not have any leverage politically or militarily to commit to a genocide without the support of the US. Netanyahu likely views Trump as a weak, necessary idiot. Trump's leadership (or lack thereof) has bought them the time and opportunity they otherwise would not have had.

As I say this, the most recent headline is:

"Trump says Netanyahu will have full US backing to "do what he has to do" if Hamas does not agree to the plan".​

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While Trump is a grifting, narcissistic moron, Netanyahu is pure, calculated evil

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[SeaEagleRock8]

Not sure how anyone can say Trump is complicit here more aptly it is the US who has supported them bilaterally. Most of this occurred when the democrats were in government.

Absolutely correct.
My comment about Trump was in response to someone saying he should get credit for fixing it. All US govts through the decades have been complicit in the way Palestinians have been treated.