Trump

[Adz]

Not sure how disproving a point is missing the point, but I’m sure you know what you mean.

I am sure you don't...
Referencing material from the past to make a point,it is irrelevant what triggered it.

 

[Woodsie]

42K views · 677 reactions | John Fetterman brings the Kennedy Center to complete silence as he delivers this emotional message on stage: “I know and I love people who voted for President Trump. They are NOT fascists, they’re NOT Nazis, they’re NOT t

John Fetterman brings the Kennedy Center to complete silence as he delivers this emotional message on stage: “I know and I love people who voted for President Trump. They are NOT fascists, they’re...

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[lsz]

You asked me to explain my conspiracy theory, which I did. It’s a bit hard to find “sources” when the theory is that mainstream media has been politicised.

Okay just so I am clear.

You can not find sources because the mainstream media has been politicised? You get how that sounds right?

 

[Cliffycomeback]

I am sure you don't...
Referencing material from the past to make a point,it is irrelevant what triggered it.

You are the one missing the point. The dishonesty doesn't come from referencing past material. To imply that's why people were shining a light on @47MVEagle is not accurate. He tried to slip in an article about Trump's actions when he wasn't the President as if the material was written during his second term. It was entirely underhanded and very obvious.

Said poster then attempted to spam the thread with other articles to conceal his motives. Frankly, it is pathetic that you feel the need to defend him. There is enough questionable material on Trump to encourage genuine debate. There is no need to be sly in order to strengthen that narrative unless a person is brainwashed or intellectually out of their depth.

 

[lsz]

The point is that Trump takes unscripted press questions from a room full of journalists on a daily basis. I can forgive him some missteps on the basis these are far outweighed by the benefits of having a leader who speaks his mind transparently. Biden on the other hand hid from the press and only read words prepared by someone else from a teleprompter.

I appreciate your point on Biden.

Now lets talk about the missteps as you put it.

I do not think he is unintelligent just someone who is (rightly) showing his age like anyone does. That combined with his continual mis representation of known facts is something that is worth consideration.

Sure it is great he is out there flooding the zone talking every day but the mis truths and the missteps are having a far reaching impact on the overall confidence in the government from the non maga people

Simple stuff like this lack of maths over and over

https://twitter.com/x/status/1978912764723646682

For those of us who are non maga what this means is we do not believe anything he says about drug prices when it is such a clear and obvious mis representation. Yes this does not impact me as an Australian but it makes me wonder about say his tariff policy on beef (something that directly impacts me) when he can not even get basic numbers correct...and if he can why does he keep saying something so wrong?

 

[SeaEagleRock8]

42K views · 677 reactions | John Fetterman brings the Kennedy Center to complete silence as he delivers this emotional message on stage: “I know and I love people who voted for President Trump. They are NOT fascists, they’re NOT Nazis, they’re NOT t

John Fetterman brings the Kennedy Center to complete silence as he delivers this emotional message on stage: “I know and I love people who voted for President Trump. They are NOT fascists, they’re...

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Quite short - someone saying let's turn down the temperature, not use inflammatory rhetoric such as calling people Nazis or fascists. Relates this to Kirk's murder.

Toning down the hate and vitriol and divisive language seems a great idea, but has anyone noticed Trump and his followers toning down their own language? I haven't! They continue to use terms such as radical far left, corrupt
Trump has called Comey a dirty cop, bad person, SLIMEBALL, a sick person, one of the worst human beings...
all these since Kirk's murder.
So would you like to see Trump & co tone down their rhetoric? or only his opponents?

 

[Highflier]

Looks like Brookie is angling for a guest spot on Fox and Friends. A true believer, Trump was right about everything, and all rational criticisms laughed off with slick insults and facile one-liners.

This clown has single-handedly ruined this thread as a place where people can try to talk about Trump and his effect on the world (and Australia)

Gee counsellor thats a little beneath you resorting to name calling ??
Surely we can keep the discussion robust yet reasonably polite.
I mean we are only doing this because we are all addicted to this forum and for Manly footy matters in the main yet some of us can't help being drawn into discussions like this, for better or worse!

 

[Highflier]

The point is that Trump takes unscripted press questions from a room full of journalists on a daily basis. I can forgive him some missteps on the basis these are far outweighed by the benefits of having a leader who speaks his mind transparently. Biden on the other hand hid from the press and only read words prepared by someone else from a teleprompter.

or written by the AI controlling " auto pen "

 

[lsz]

or written by the AI controlling " auto pen "

I am confused (as always)

I understood the auto pen controversy was around him signing executive orders as stated here

Republican leading inquiry into Biden’s autopen use has digitally signed letters

James Comer has used a digital signature on documents throughout his investigation into Biden’s use of an autopen

www.theguardian.com

Is there a belief more was done or is it that he did not know what he was signing?

 

[Adz]

You are the one missing the point. The dishonesty doesn't come from referencing past material. To imply that's why people were shining a light on @47MVEagle is not accurate. He tried to slip in an article about Trump's actions when he wasn't the President as if the material was written during his second term. It was entirely underhanded and very obvious.

Said poster then attempted to spam the thread with other articles to conceal his motives. Frankly, it is pathetic that you feel the need to defend him. There is enough questionable material on Trump to encourage genuine debate. There is no need to be sly in order to strengthen that narrative unless a person is brainwashed or intellectually out of their depth.

Lol,get it right,it was not even the poster you are talking about FFS 😂
Notice the tumbleweeds about my other posts?
People focussing on the irrelevant..
I am not defending anyone,try some more BS........

 

[SeaEagleRock8]

Gee counsellor thats a little beneath you resorting to name calling ??
Surely we can keep the discussion robust yet reasonably polite.
I mean we are only doing this because we are all addicted to this forum and for Manly footy matters in the main yet some of us can't help being drawn into discussions like this, for better or worse!

There's more than one way to insult someone. I generally prefer to be upfront about it (as opposed, for example, to simply disrespecting another persons' point by ridiculing it/pretending you never saw it/deflection/diversion etc

(PS ...and... 'counsellor'? I'm not American, and I'm not a lawyer (I work as a gardener)