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I was directly replying to your comment about who the most illiterate president is in 100 years. Pretty simple…
Regan got pretty bad but trump is worse.
I simply disagreed & replied to what he said - In what world is that whatabouting? I don’t think you actually know what that means you just throw it around in complete wrong context when you don’t think the argument is going in your favour.

I don’t care about the excuse of a stutter - that’s been played out plenty. How about we focus on the facts? The facts are it’s officially been released that the White House & media were covering for Sleepy Joe during his downfall as President. FACT
Can you please explain the word salad from the clip I posted.
You have ignored it so far.
 
47MVE what you have quoted is not the entire story there. While I'm not sure that it would be my first action point if I was in their position, Trump and Secretary of War wanted to remove DEI from the Military (not a bad thing).What they have done is remove the categories of African American or Hispanic, Female etc and instead included them in Prominent Military figures or Significant Science and Technolgy achievements etc , based on the contribution to their country versus highlighting their race, colour, creed or gender. So they haven't just been obliterated from the records just been categorized more along the lines of their achievements
47MVE purposefully taking things out of context to try get his point across again - who would have thought? 🤣 Becoming quite the trend for him these last few days…

Id think being caught lying & deliberately trying to mislead people day after day would get tiresome but he seems to enjoy it
 
47MVE what you have quoted is not the entire story there. While I'm not sure that it would be my first action point if I was in their position, Trump and Secretary of War wanted to remove DEI from the Military (not a bad thing).What they have done is remove the categories of African American or Hispanic, Female etc and instead included them in Prominent Military figures or Significant Science and Technolgy achievements etc , based on the contribution to their country versus highlighting their race, colour, creed or gender. So they haven't just been obliterated from the records just been categorized more along the lines of their achievements
Can you please provide a reputable source for your claim that the black & female people whose records have been deleted have been recategorised as “Prominent Military figures” or “Significant Science and Technology achievements”?
 
47MVE purposefully taking things out of context to try get his point across again - who would have thought? 🤣 Becoming quite the trend for him these last few days…

Id think being caught lying & deliberately trying to mislead people day after day would get tiresome but he seems to enjoy it
Look at you clinging to exactly what I posted about to @Cliffycomeback before.

So what if the article I quoted about the watches was written between terms? He’s still advertising & selling them now. Is he president right now, do yuh think hur hur hur?

What about the other stuff you’ve so conveniently glossed over, you intellectual coward?
 
So they haven't just been obliterated from the records just been categorized more along the lines of their achievements
Are you sure?
so the Inola Gay still features in the armed services libraries and displays? You sure about that!
And Maya Angelou's book wasn't removed (contrary to reports)? You sure?
Also why do you say removing 'DEI' from the military is not a bad thing? Or removing it from everywhere! Which is what trump is trying to do, if you aren't aware he has cut funding for institutions that don't reject DEI, even shared research projects - including in australia
 
@Ohgeez And seeing as you’re riding Highfliers horse about reclassification so HARD (awarding him a winning trophy no less 😂) where’s YOUR evidence that’s what has happened?

Come on & prove yourself to have some integrity instead of being a bitter no-lifer, fluffing & cheerleading other posters.
 
ok sure, well there is a lot of ignoring others POV in fact, in this thread in particular, its riddled with misinformation, disinformation and dare I say it Fake News,,,, there I said it
As for the term Counsellor I could have sworn you had some legal training or expertise in the past that was exercised at some point in a discussion possibly on someone's contract etc .
Anyways my mistake, I guess.
You have a nice day now
Thanks @Highflier i always try to have a nice day, and I hope your day is going well.
My point about what I said about Brookie... I've disagreed a number of times with yourself, @Eagle1, even @Cliffycomeback but I doubt any of you have ever copped personal insult or abuse from me?
But I'm human I have my limits
As for a legal background, yes I had an interest in the law previously and all I can say is ... gardening is an honourable profession 🙂
 
Looks like someone has crapped out 😂

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Look at you clinging to exactly what I posted about to @Cliffycomeback before.

So what if the article I quoted about the watches was written between terms? He’s still advertising & selling them now. Is he president right now, do yuh think hur hur hur?

What about the other stuff you’ve so conveniently glossed over, you intellectual coward?
🤣 bit ironic calling someone an intellectual coward when you’d rather block & mute instead of admitting you made stupid mistakes.

Good to see your mute on my account lasted 2 days - another cowardly choice you’ve overturned

Edit - smh just got through the rest of the thread & you are back to spamming 🤦‍♂️
 
You keep assuming I believe the crowd booing were “leftists”. I never said that and it’s completely beside the point.
I see confusion is still in the driver seat of this exchange. You've now misread my post (I clarified the misunderstanding in it - did not reiterate it).

Re: complaint on the use of 'MAGAt'
The point I have been making is that it is sad that leftists around the world assume they were booing Trump.
A recent interest of mine has been the weaponisation and widespread use of 'woke', 'liberals', 'antifa' etc. Channelling MAGA's energy I jumped aboard -- referring to 'MAGA Trumpers' as MAGAts. Low and behold the pot called the kettle black. MAGAt was (correctly) recognised as childish.​
The message appears to have been missed; evident as you continue to reduce everyone critical of Trump or the MAGA movement to a 'leftist'. See Political Reductionism:
Political reductionism is the oversimplification of complex political issues by reducing them to a single cause or a few parts, such as focusing only on individual voters, race, or class. This approach fails to account for the full complexity of political phenomena and can lead to inaccurate conclusions. It is a common tendency used across the political spectrum to simplify analysis, but it risks dismissing or ignoring other contributing factors.​

Your main point: "Leftists around the world assume [Perth] were booing Trump".
  1. 'Leftists', referring to ...?
  • Left-aligned media? People that watch left-aligned media?
  • People on reddit ? People criticising MAGA on right-aligned social media such as twitter? People critical of ICE? Pro-healthcare? Anti-oligarchy etc.
  • Any/all of Democratic, Democratic-Socialist, Socialist, Communist? Note left-right is a political spectrum.
  • Ex-Republicans and/or Republicans critical of Trump? Those fully opposed to Trump?

2. What are you basing the actual idea off? Media articles? A social media page?

In terms of media there's no basis for this claim. All Australian articles i've seen (+2 UK, +1 US) are titled "Australian's boo US anthem" or similar. Even for left-leaning media organisations I am yet to see any pattern of stating (or implying) that Australian's were instead booing Trump. This appears to suggest you have come to this belief again without consulting the available information. I don't believe you are doing this intentionally per se but see Motivated reasoning.

Motivated reasoning is defined as the process by which individuals distort incoming information to align with their prior beliefs, often driven by a conflict between the motivation for accuracy and the desire to reach preferred conclusions.


Re: clarifying my view on Perth crowd booing

The WWE incident was raised in response to a post implying MAGA 'were hiding in the shadows' in Australia. Clearly no one can judge whether Perth fans booed i) the country (due to Trump admin perception), ii) the action (decision to sing the US anthem in foreign country), or iii) a combination of both.
the answer to these sorts of questions is almost always iii).

Why raise it at all? It really was just a side piece - the election was the more meaningful example. Nonetheless, it still shows Australians don't care to disrespect the US of A. The 2 main assumptions I made were: 1. Large majority of Perth attendees booed, and 2. if Australia had a strong Trump base hiding in the shadows, this would not have been the case. Sort of a pointless / unfalsifiable argument anyways. I've been more interested in the subsequent discussion
 
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🤣 bit ironic calling someone an intellectual coward when you’d rather block & mute instead of admitting you made stupid mistakes.

Good to see your mute on my account lasted 2 days - another cowardly choice you’ve overturned

Edit - smh just got through the rest of the thread & you are back to spamming 🤦‍♂️
So still no answer from you 😂

You have almost Trump-like abilities to avoid answering 😂
 

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