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Discussion in 'Rugby League Forum' started by Kiwi Eagle, Aug 30, 2013.

  1. Kiwi Eagle

    Kiwi Eagle Moderator Staff Member 2017 Tipping Competitor

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    Just heard something on the radio, apparently they are going to trial the video refs talking to the TV commentators to explain the calls they are making

    Could be interesting
     
  2. globaleagle

    globaleagle Le ver vert va vers le verre vert! Premium Member 2017 Tipping Competitor

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    As long as the tv guys can't talk back! Though it may make interesting 'viewing.'

    I cant get 'video ref killed the radio ref' outta my head.
     
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    • Dan

      Dan Administrator Staff Member Administrator 2017 Tipping Competitor 2016 Tipping Competitor

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      Tv commentators already have too much influence jeez.

      They should trial having just one ref again
       
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      • Clint

        Clint . Premium Member 2017 Tipping Competitor

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        or just bring it straight back in.
         
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        • MissKate

          MissKate Well-Known Member Premium Member

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          why would the nrl want to be doing this or even discussing it, I thought they said everything was going great with the refs this year
           
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          • Kiwi Eagle

            Kiwi Eagle Moderator Staff Member 2017 Tipping Competitor

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            THE NRL will revolutionise rugby league forever on Friday with under-pressure video referees to publicly explain their decisions to millions of Channel Nine viewers.

            The Daily Telegraph can exclusively reveal that video refs will be called upon to explain each contentious decision to television fans for the next two NRL rounds and then throughout the finals series.

            After a decision is reached, Nine viewers will then hear audio from the video refs revealing why the decision was made and which rules were employed.

            Play will not be stopped, the video ref’s explanation running for between five to ten seconds.

            If the system is successful over the final two rounds, the NRL will look to play the video ref's audio through the public address system at every NRL ground for fans attending games.

            Channel Nine and Fox Sports, the game's two broadcasters, have approved the plan.

            Nine and Fox Sports commentators will discuss the controversial try, as usual, before then handing over to the video referee.

            The senior of the two video referees will make the announcement.

            "We are looking at ways of expanding the communication process around video referee decisions," said NRL head of football Todd Greenberg.

            "We hope to achieve a greater level of transparency for the fans in relation to decisions made by the video referee.

            "It's important to point out that it won’t mean that everyone will agree with decisions that are made, but they may at least understand the basis for the decision that was made.

            "This will be in place for all matches in round 25 and if it's well received, we will consider other opportunities to also feed audio into our stadiums for the members and fans during the finals series.

            "It's important rugby league continues to be innovative and progressive and this continues with our overarching vision to be regarded as a sport that is both entertaining and engaging at all levels."

            Video referees have been under fire over the past two years.

            They were involved in a number of blunders last season, culminating in the sacking of NRL referee co-coaches Bill Harrigan and Stuart Raper.

            Their decisions may not improve but at least the public will be aware of the reasons behind each verdict.

            Friday's game at Allianz Stadium between Wests Tigers and South Sydney will be the first time viewers hear from the video referee.

            "It sounds like a great innovation," said NSW State of Origin coach Laurie Daley.

            "The fans have always wanted to know why decisions are made from the video referee’s box and now they will.

            "It is all about the game being transparent.

            "It will be great the viewers – they will be involved in the game and the video ref's will probably be more understood too."

            An on-line Daily Telegraph poll, which attracted more than 10,000 respondents,- actually gave the NRL video referees some support.

            Asked what was worse - the NRL video referee or cricket’s DRS – only 20 percent voted for the rugby league version.

            Cricket's DRS attracted nearly 36 percent of the vote.

            Fans have not exactly given new Referee's Coach Daniel Anderson a strong endorsement.

            Nearly 38 percent admitted the standard of refereeing had gone down since Anderson took over this year.
             
          • globaleagle

            globaleagle Le ver vert va vers le verre vert! Premium Member 2017 Tipping Competitor

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            I just wonder though, if the commentary shall be something like:

            1) Ball gets grounded but dec sent upstairs to check.

            2)Everyone in the world but refs see the ball grounded

            3)Refs simply say they didn't see ball grounded

            4)Frustration continues to grow.

            5)GE wins tipping comp
             
          • The Who

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            Can you imagine Gus to the pinkies.... "I said No, No. No. No. No!"
             
          • Kiwi Eagle

            Kiwi Eagle Moderator Staff Member 2017 Tipping Competitor

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            I'm keen to see how it runs and what we get out of it

            Has the potential to be a very good addition to the coverage but will always cause debate
             
          • Brissie Kid

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            It is a sorry state of affairs that things are such a mess in the way they officiate rules that we need them to explain their decisions at all.
             
          • EagleFromMay1967

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            Video refs: That was not a try. . . although he grounded the ball, clearly, its STEVE MATAI, therefore, obviously, . . . . its NO TRY.
             
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            • DSM5

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              I can't see why the NRL don't employ the same system they have in the NHL, I.e. referral to a central room at headquarters, so that each referral is adjudicated by a consistent panel. I fail to see why a dope like Luke Patten gets a job as a video ref. And while I'm ranting, why do we have to have 16 refs? Wy can't the two (preferably one) do a game on Friday and one on Sunday. Its not like they're taking the ball up or making tackles. Then maybe we could get rid of the duds.
               
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              • Narly

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                To me this doesn't really make a difference. I want to know how a ref can penalise a player for holding down a player in one team and the not penalise the other team for the same offence. Its this type of referring that really effects a game.
                 
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                • Fluffy

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                  it will not change anything as anyone who has listened to sports ears will know the refs often call out players for off side etc then do not blow a penalty if they get involved. Hence it is already public knowledge that they choose their decisions on more than just what they see
                   
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                  • Moondog

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                    One ref, two touchies was'nt perfect but it was a hell of a lot better than this.
                    The game has'nt improved one iota with two referees, video referees and changing the rules every five minutes and a lot of the rulings are so subjective it's hard to believe the officials are'nt biased.
                     
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                    • Rex

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                      It is imperative the refs are not influenced one iota by the (obviously biased) TV commentators. So:
                      1. There must be no two way communication between the video ref and the commentators
                      2. The video refs must NOT hear the commentators' opnions on whether it was a try or not. Can anyone confirm this does not already happen? That video refs only see the vision and are physically barred from being able to hear the sound?
                       
                    • MissKate

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                      Is that half the problem, since increasing the number of officials, it has removed the need for any of them to take on the responsibility for stuffing up
                       
                    • MadMarcus

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                      Ref: Ah Matai, I see... What should i put him on report for? Did he make contact with GI?
                       
                    • Hamster Huey

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                      Don't agree with it. Why not simply take the Union lead and have the VR mic'ced to explain to the ref why he's going with his decision, so that we hear it (imagine Harrigan a few years ago explaining the Gasnier 'try', "No, I don't see any separation there...". There is no need to involve the commentators.
                       
                    • Kiwi Eagle

                      Kiwi Eagle Moderator Staff Member 2017 Tipping Competitor

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                      I thought it went ok, nothing to complain about at all
                       

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